[Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

Badru Ntege badru.ntege at nftconsult.com
Fri Sep 30 17:13:27 UTC 2016


Andrew

On 30 Sep 2016, at 5:30 pm, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:

No Omo,

Please read what Ashok said – the limitation *WILL NOT SURVIVE LEGAL CHALLENGE*

Afrinic is a regional organisation if we are being shackled by jurisdiction of registration we have 52 other jurisdictions.

We have options. Let's remain very open and objective to what is best for members.

Consensus not legal shackles is what the Internet is built on.




The companies act does not ALLOW the limitation.

Andrew


From: Omo Oaiya <Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net<mailto:Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net>>
Date: Friday, 30 September 2016 at 17:29
To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>>
Cc: Jean-Robert Hountomey <jrhountomey at gmail.com<mailto:jrhountomey at gmail.com>>, "community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>" <community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

As you have repeated but that is by the way.  What is clear is that electronic voting has solved the issue with proxies so we don’t need them. If the companies act is restrictive and does not support better accountability, proxies can be limited to one per member to balance things out.

On 30 Sep 2016, at 15:22, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:

Jean-Robert because proxies are enshrined in the companies act and the act explicitly states that they cannot be removed irrespective of what a company’s bylaws / constitution says.

See fifth schedule section 6

Andrew


From: Jean-Robert Hountomey <jrhountomey at gmail.com<mailto:jrhountomey at gmail.com>>
Date: Friday, 30 September 2016 at 17:22
To: "community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>" <community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum


Talking about Board Members election (1) and (2), why do we want to keep Proxies While we have Electronic voting ?

Proxies make sens when a member cannot attend the meeting in person, isn't what we wanted to solve with electronic voting?



(1) http://afrinic.net/en/community/elections/bod-election/process

(2) http://afrinic.net/en/about/agmm/participate-vote

On 9/29/16 8:56 PM, Alan Barrett wrote:

On 30 Sep 2016, at 02:26, Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za><mailto:mje at posix.co.za> wrote

The only time the Proxy Restrictions are enforced is for the Board

elections. Traditionally, the elections for the PDP Co-Chair is hands at

the meeting and the elections for the ASO-AC is by secret ballot by

those present.

Proxy restrictions apply to elections by the Members (Resource Members and Registered Members).  ASO-AC and PDWG elections are by the community or by the PDWG, not by the Members. Board elections and now Governance Committee elections are by the Members.



Alan Barrett







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