[Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

Abibu Ntahigiye abibu at tznic.or.tz
Mon Sep 19 10:23:23 UTC 2016

+1 to Frank.
The PRIMARY value to Associate members should be reflected in the association with Afrinic  and not Voting.
The PRIMARY value to resource members are the resources from Afrinic.

Eng. Abibu R. Ntahigiye.

On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Frank Habicht wrote:

> Hi Douglas,
> valid points.
> One small "value addition" is of course the "priceless" association with
> AfriNIC. I trust that for "some, but only a few" entities this could be
> enough value.
> But beyond that I think the question is: "how much more value does
> AfriNIC want to give and how many more associate members do we wish to get?"
> We probably have diverse answers to this. I personally prefer if we can
> find enough seats at the members' meeting ;-)
> About dropping the category altogether: I don't object. But maybe there
> are a number of entities that would want to become associate members,
> just because they like that, and without voting rights...???
> (I don't know)
> Regards,
> Frank
> On 9/19/2016 11:05 AM, Douglas Onyango wrote:
>> Hi Frank, et al,
>> On 19 September 2016 at 06:49, Frank Habicht <geier at geier.ne.tz> wrote:
>>> I agree, with all of the above. Well said.
>>> Considering that someone could control many legal entities, and these
>>> could all become associate members, that could change voting outcomes
>>> very much into that someone's favour.
>> My original intent, which I thought I had expressed clearly in
>> previous discussions, is a more fundamental issue with the Associate
>> Membership category: lack of value addition. This issue is a parent
>> issue to the proposed clarifying text. It must be addressed first to
>> pave way for, and inform any clarifying text on Associate Membership
>> in the bylaws.
>> Now just to be clear, I am not advocating for voting rights per se.
>> What I am advocating for is value addition for every membership
>> category. The idea of a membership category that collects fees but
>> offers no value in return just doesn't sit well with me.
>> My proposal is that we find substantial value for this category. If we
>> can't, I believe the membership category makes no sense and should
>> effectively be dropped all together.
>> I hope this provides more clarity on my views.
>> Regards,
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