[Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment

[Badru Ntege]

Members 

We need to put certain things in perspective 

As members we share views openly and are free to comment or not to comment. 

Even free speech has its guidelines thus the code of conduct. 

The origins of my comment which seems to have sparked defensive comments from third parties was based on past experience where official commitments have been made and not met. 

Please remember CEO is not like any member on this list. The community or some might say members through the board have entrusted the stewardship of our organisation to him by contract.  Thus certain expectations.  Making and keeping commitments to me are the simplest. 

And my comment once again was based on past experience not future.

I read some frustrations from members about meeting behavior which is guided under the code of conduct and usually session chairs. I fail to see the connection. 

Let's focus on timely deliverables 

Regards. 

 

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> On 16 Sep 2016, at 12:21 PM, Jackson Muthili <jacksonmuthi at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Andrew Alston
> <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
>> It also worries me that people seem to restrict what OTHERS say.
>> 
>> If Owen feels like he wishes to comment on something – he is as free to do
>> so as anyone here is free to say anything.
> 
> Has anyone restricted or stopped another from expressing themselves?
> 
>> Why do you wish to censor some members of the community?  If you don’t like
>> what they say – feel free to ignore it.
> 
> I agree. Just as Alan has chosen to ignore Badrus emails.
> 
>> It’s the same way it annoys me when people come to the floor in a PDP
>> meeting and go “I THINK THIS DISCUSSION SHOULD END AND THIS POLICY SHOULD BE
>> SCRAPPED RIGHT NOW”
>> 
>> And “WHY ARE WE ENTERTAINING THIS POLICY IT HAS HAD NO COMMENTS SO ITS NOT
>> SUPPORTED”
> 
> There you go. It annoys you. And that's why others have always let you
> stand in the meeting and belittle and disparage others you dont like
> or agree with. its a free world after all.
> 
>> Ignoring the process that specifically lays out a way things are supposed to
>> go.
>> 
>> Here is a big hint – don’t like something, you’re free to ignore it, or, in
>> this case, free to bitch and whine about it – but honestly, whining about
>> things because you don’t like what someone says without adding anything
>> constructive to the debate just indicates a level of insecurity and is
>> pretty boring.
>> 
>> And well – that’s me exercising my freedom of speech and if you don’t what
>> I’ve said here, you’re free to ignore it, or whine some more, not like it
>> makes a difference to me.
> 
> Exactly my point. Speak up freely. You are even free to abuse the
> docility of a community and belittle them as you wish. After all, you
> are exercising your freedom of speech.
> 
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