[Community-Discuss] IPv4 depletion in AFRINIC will speed up IPv6 adoption - myth or fact?

[abel ELITCHA]

Hi Andrew,
Please look at comments inline.

2016-11-03 5:20 GMT+00:00 Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>:

> Abel,
>
>
>
> The current 3.2.1 does not limit it to individuals, it says it is open to *
> *everyone** including individuals.  However, it does not say that
> ENTITIES are prohibited from participation in that capacity.
>

 Participation in the PDP and  the WG is not fee-based or organizationally
defined, but  based upon self-identification and active participation by
individuals.  Views expressed are personal view and do not represent
contributor ORG view.

>
>
> Indeed, there is precedent for this – Go back to any video of any PDP
> meeting and individuals have come to the microphone stating “I am so and so
> and I am here in my personal capacity”, or “I am so and so and I represent
> X”
>
What i see is as follow :

For RIR related bodies (board, AC, staff….), " I am  X and speaking in my
personal capacity” . They avoid  misinterpretation as they wear also other
hats.

For Others : " I am Y, ORG A”, “ I am Z, I work for ORG B”.  They use ORG
 for identification.

>
>
> The moment you say everyone without limitation as is stated below, this I
> would argue is certainly inclusive of legal entities (human or otherwise),
> that wish to participate in that capacity.
>

If we want this interpretation, we shall make it  clear  and adopt the
appropriate measures  to implement it. The WG would need to  check
authentication / authorization to represent ORG they claim to represent.
This would also imply appropriate management of *Conflict of Interest* and
*IPR* on the contributions

Do we need ORGs views in the PDP beyond the individual  active
participation ???

>
>
> Andrew
>
Merci.

--Abel.

>
>
> *From: *abel ELITCHA <kmw.elitcha at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 2 November 2016 at 23:33
> *To: *Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
> *Cc: *General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>,
> Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud at gmail.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv4 depletion in AFRINIC will speed
> up IPv6 adoption - myth or fact?
>
>
>
> Hello Andrew,
>
> Comments inline.
>
> Le 1 nov. 2016 19:34, "Andrew Alston" <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> a
> écrit :
> >
> > Arnaud,
> >
> >
> > You are right – proxies aren’t allowed at PDP – except in this case,
> they are not proxies.  I am the direct administrative contact for those
> organisations and hence I speak for each of them, one organisation at a
> time.
> >
>
> Participation in PDP discussions is by individual and not by organization.
> Hence the direct administrative contact role you have for organizations
> would be irrelevant in the policy discussions.
>
>  Section 3.2.1 of the PDP says:
>
> ===================
>
> Openness
>
> All policies are developed in an open forum in which anyone may
> participate. There are no qualifications for participation.
>
> ===================
>
> *Co-chairs should correct me if I'm wrong*.
>
>
>
> Merci.
>
> --Abel
>
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> >
>



-- 
Best regards,

--Komi A. Elitcha
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