[Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Council of Elders

Omo Oaiya Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net
Wed Jul 13 07:57:47 UTC 2016


Owen,

Is my claim nonsensical or are you being presumptuous in your assumption
that there is no discrimination going on? You can trust that I do not make
unsubstantiated claims.

Irrespective of board discretion, it is not in spirit of community for such
delay with no apology for being casual about it. That we even argue about
it is a divisive shame, IMHO

The Chair was quick to respond to public discussion and I look forward to
the outcome of the meeting.

I have no more to say on this matter.

-Omo
On 13 Jul 2016 8:42 a.m., "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> wrote:

>
> On Jul 12, 2016, at 22:01 , Omo Oaiya <Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 12 July 2016 at 21:03, Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nishal +1
>>
>> Maybe a hypothetical if I may: what if a former Chairperson were to pass,
>> or to be unable or unwilling to serve on the CoE, or even if they were to
>> be convicted of an offense after their term that would disqualify them as a
>> director.
>>
> I don't think the community would want an unable or unwilling CoE member,
>> or a convict.
>>
>
> No community would.  We want them because of their experience as former
> Chairs
> I read the 'open to' in 16.1 as former chairs are willing to consider or
> be considered.  So some might decline or be denied
>
>
>> So I cannot see how automatic appointment could be implied.
>
>
> This is what bothers me.  We don't yet have 6 past chairs and we are
> discriminating without reason on appointment to CoE? How does this improve
> trust?
>
>
> Omo,
>
> You are claiming facts not in evidence.
>
> The board chair clearly stated that the matter has not yet been considered
> by the board. This is not discrimination, it is a lack of action in either
> direction, positive or negative. He further noted that it will be on the
> agenda at the next board meeting.
>
> Claiming discrimination when there clearly isn’t any such thing going on
> is nonsensical.
>
> Finally, appointment to the CoE is at the discretion of the board. They
> are free to invite a past chair or not entirely at their discretion and
> nothing requires them to explain their reasoning to the community. If you
> don’t like their decision, vote for different board members next time there
> is an election.
>
> Personally, given the manner in which Badru stepped down from the
> chairmanship and the subsequent incidents leading to his departure from the
> board, I would say that the board has more than ample reason if they choose
> not to invite him to join the CoE. However, I respect that this is a
> decision entirely at their discretion and I will accept whatever decision
> they make.
>
> The purpose of the CoE is to advise the board. The board must be free to
> choose who it does or does not want to receive advice from.
>
> Owen
>
>
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