[Community-Discuss] ICANN and RIRs signed SLA for IANA numbering services post transition

Fri Jul 1 22:07:06 UTC 2016

> On Jul 1, 2016, at 13:26 , Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Sent from my LG G4
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
> On 1 Jul 2016 22:40, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com <mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:
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> >> On Jul 1, 2016, at 11:26 , Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com <mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> >> Yes indeed! Overall I will expect the congress would not be unaware of what they are approving.
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> > Then your experience with US Congress is rather limited.
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> SO: Yes indeed, I will not claim to have good experience of US politics! Though my point was that quite significant number of people is following happenings so any possible actions or racketing that could stall process would have received significant information to educate any congressman not aware of possible implications of what they are about to do.
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That’s the whole point of riders… They are amendments often rushed in at the last second in an attempt to drive a micro-agenda with limited support through despite opposition by depending on the momentum of the larger bill to which they get attached.

I’m hoping there is enough scrutiny to prevent it, but my faith in the ability of our legislators to do the wrong thing in most cases is nearly boundless.

> Overall a decision to stall the transition would indeed be intentional as every effort would have been made to educate the "possibly" ignorant congressmen. The hearing referred to by Mike was one of those avenues that I think served as a good educating platform to them.
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Absolutely, but that’s not what we’re talking about here with riders. Riders are tiny amendments that get tacked onto bills at the last minute. Often, it seems, most of the members voting on it are only looking at the larger bill and many riders go through without really being noticed, even when there is strong opposition to the actual content of the rider.

Owen

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> > My concern is that if congress goes back on promises made by USG once again, there may be a fracturous move to proceed with transition that gets traction in at least some part of the community and essentially declares ICANN irrelevant for the cooperating parts of the community whoever that may comprise.
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> SO: Yup that's a possible implication which we all hope it doesn't get to.
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> > This would be the worst possible outcome.
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> SO: Yes Indeed
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> Regards
> > Owen
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> >> On 1 Jul 2016 9:03 p.m., "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com <mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:
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> >>> Mike Silber covered it pretty well… There’s no real traction to block it, but the concern is if it gets buried in a rider on another bill.
> >>>
> >>> Owen
> >>>
> >>>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 03:42 , Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com <mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello Honest,
> >>>>
> >>>> There is a request to not spend the NTIA budget on transition and also a few members of the house are pushing against the transition but I understand it may not be a major thing to worry about(will leave it to Owen to say if it's been more significant lately).  
> >>>>
> >>>> As to what we can do, there is really noting except to use every opportunity to remind the USG that the stewardship transition was their plan and the multistakeholder community has delivered on their part of the task based on USG's plan. It will be in the interest of USG to keep to her plan. The Africann/AFRALO community indicated this in their recent statement:
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> >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/africann/2016-June/011609.html <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/africann/2016-June/011609.html>
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> >>>> Regards
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my LG G4
> >>>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1 Jul 2016 12:50, "Honest Ornella GANKPA" <honest1989 at gmail.com <mailto:honest1989 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello Owen,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can you explain further what  the US congress is trying to do? What can the Internet community do to avoid seeing community efforts wasted if such a bill is passed?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Honest Ornella GANKPA
> >>>>> Network engineer 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2016-06-30 21:47 GMT+01:00 Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com <mailto:owen at delong.com>>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now if we can just avoid the US Congress doing something stupid (which the senate
> >>>>>> is already trying todo through an amendment to a defense appropriations bill), we’ll
> >>>>>> be all set.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Owen
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jun 30, 2016, at 10:15 , Noah <noah at neo.co.tz <mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes this is indeed progress...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Congrats to the CRISP and ICANN teams....
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Noah
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 30 Jun 2016 17:18, "Danny" <afahounko at gmail.com <mailto:afahounko at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> >>>>>>>> Hello all,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1805-icann-and-regional-internet-registries-sign-sla-for-the-iana-numbering-services <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1805-icann-and-regional-internet-registries-sign-sla-for-the-iana-numbering-services>
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> >>>>>>>> Congratulations to CRISP and ICANN teams.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This is a good example.
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