[Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Governance

Noah noah at neo.co.tz
Mon Sep 21 22:27:43 UTC 2015

Owen? Please dont drag us into the Badru past and present actions as they
are irrelevant to progress....

What is so difficult in giving the community an indicative timeline? Yes we
know we are all used to the whole T.I.A thing but we can't expect to see
changes if we continue behaving this way.....

It's as simple as [ dear community, expect us to get back to you within a
month or so ]....

We can't be reminding folk of their responsibilities whether it's Badru
requesting for an update or a different member of the community...

PS: In fact I would to suggest for Badru to fall back from his exercising
his rights as a community member since his subjective opinions are being
looked upon with a biased point of view which fundamentally does help the
entire community....


On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 8:57 pm Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:

> While I do agree that some milestones and target dates for this process
> should soon be forthcoming
> from the board, I will point out that Badru’s is the first request for
> them.
> I want to give Mr. Ntege the benefit of the doubt and presume that he only
> seeks to improve AfriNIC,
> but it is difficult under the circumstances when you consider that the
> very behavior he now criticizes
> was his own behavior while he was chair. Two of the three years that this
> process has dragged on
> so far were under his leadership as chairman of the board. I am glad to
> see that he is now interested
> in moving forward with greater board accountability, but I wish he had
> been such a staunch activist
> while he was still a member of that august body.
> Now is a time of many leadership changes in AfriNIC. I have a high degree
> of confidence in the
> new leadership, but they have inherited an overwhelming amount of action
> items. This is not to
> make excuses, so much as to say let’s allow them to do their jobs.
> If another month goes by and we have not seen some steps and target dates
> from the board
> based on the output of the committee assigned to this task, then perhaps
> there is reason for
> concern. However, expecting a complete response to such a large ask within
> a week of making
> the original request is not reasonable in my opinion.
> I do not believe it is in Sunday’s nature to drag his feet on action
> requested by the community,
> nor do I think he is resistant to transparency or to the governance
> committee.
> Owen
> > On Sep 21, 2015, at 01:47 , Saul <saul at enetworks.co.za> wrote:
> >
> > I must say that I do agree with Badru on this one.
> >
> > Even if the timeframe is 6 months or a year, but to say that we are
> > working on something with no due reporting date is a ticket for disaster.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Badru Ntege [mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com]
> > Sent: 21 September 2015 09:54 AM
> > To: Sunday Folayan <sunday.folayan at afrinic.net>; Badru Ntege
> > <ntegeb at gmail.com>
> > Cc: community-discuss at afrinic.net; members-discuss at afrinic.net
> > Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Governance
> >
> > Thank you chair
> >
> > Sorry for the delay in response.
> >
> >
> > I just thought it would be better to give members delivery times.  I
> still
> > see no delivery time which means that we could be discussing governance
> in
> > 2 years time.
> >
> > The same issue goes inline with performance which is an issue that is
> > hoped to be covered under governance.
> >
> > You cannot improve what you cannot measure.  So I really ask that we
> start
> > giving actual deliverables.
> >
> > Regards¹
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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