[Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 5, Issue 11
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1. Re: How to mesure performance of afrinic board (Noah)
2. Re: How to mesure performance of afrinic board (serge ilunga)
3. Re: How to mesure performance of afrinic board (Seun Ojedeji)
4. Re: How to mesure performance of afrinic board (Ali Hussein)
5. Re: How to mesure performance of afrinic board (Badru Ntege)
6. Re: How to mesure performance of afrinic board (Ali Hussein)
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 19:12:23 +0300
From: Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>
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On 22 Dec 2015 01:15, "Keshwarsingh Nadan" <Keshwarsingh.Nadan at millenium.mu>
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>
> the board sucks
>
Which board if you may? :-|
Noah
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From: serge ilunga <sergekbk at gmail.com>
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+1 Ali ,
Mission (Goal) and Values are the key drivers of any organization.
In the case of AfriNIC, the BOD is to put in place a strategic plan.
This responsability being shared by the whole board, what can be the metric
to evaluate BOD members performance.
Even the metrics are set, how can we evaluate the performance of a single
BOD member while their terms don't start at the same time?
Kind Regards.
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I have just recently joined the list and have been following the
> discussions on the Afrinic Board with interest. Whilst I believe it's too
> early for me to provide an opinion I have one contribution to make.
>
> Any Board has the fiduciary responsibility to drive the organization's
> goals as stipulated by its members /shareholders through its Memorandum and
> Articles which usually are broken down by period Strategic Plans. I believe
> Boards should ultimately be judged by whether an organisation is
> meeting/exceeding its mandate through the implementation of the above.
>
> Do we have in place such reviews? And how are they structured? Are they
> public documents we can access?
>
> *Ali Hussein*
> *Principal*
> *Hussein & Associates*
> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
>
> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>
> Skype: abu-jomo
>
> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>
> Blog: www.alyhussein.com<http://www.alyhussein.com>
>
> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 22 Dec 2015, at 10:47 AM, Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:
>
> The Board was put there by AFRINIC Members in good standing.
> Ergo, AFRINIC Members suck at choosing Board Members.
>
> ----
>
> There is a reason why a Term only lasts three years... it allows the
> Membership to correct their errors.
>
> I personally think the Board does not suck and is actually pretty good.
>
> On Mon, 2015-12-21 at 22:15 +0000, Keshwarsingh Nadan wrote:
>
> the board sucks
>
> ________________________________________
>
> From: Owen DeLong [owen at delong.com]
>
> Sent: 22 December 2015 1:50
>
> To: General Discussions of AFRINIC
>
> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board
>
>
> As a general rule, the only check and balance on a board is the voting
> members who can
>
> choose to change out the board and the board itself who can (usually)
> remove a member
>
> if it is necessary.
>
>
> The method for measuring the effectiveness of the board is generally up to
> each voter
>
> to determine for his/her self and I don?t see any reason this should be
> different for AfriNIC.
>
>
> I think the members of AfriNIC are perfectly capable of electing the board
> and that
>
> there is no reason we should dictate to them what criteria they should
> consider when
>
> making their votes.
>
>
> Owen
>
>
> On Dec 20, 2015, at 05:14 , Chevalier du Borg <virtual.borg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> i have been thinking about this for a while. there's a triangle of
>
> check and balance that make this system work
>
>
> - board check and balance ceo (and staff?)
>
>
> who does check and balance on board? members only? or the community at
> large?
>
> I also like to know, what are the thing used to measure whether a
>
> board being effective? should we clarifie this mesures so that its
>
> self-evidence to everyone when board is doing good job or not? should
>
> we add that check and balance formally to responsabilite of governance
>
> committee? i belief good performance and good governance go hand in
>
> hand.
>
>
> thoughts?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Borg le Chevalier
>
> ___________________________________
>
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 19:33:23 +0100
From: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
To: General discussion of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic
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On Dec 22, 2015 18:32, "serge ilunga" <sergekbk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 Ali ,
> Mission (Goal) and Values are the key drivers of any organization.
> In the case of AfriNIC, the BOD is to put in place a strategic plan.
>
SO: Organisation strategy is operational and its within the scope of staff
(CEO) to develop, while the board exercise oversight at determining if the
strategy is consistent with the organisation's goals and also carrying out
periodic review of progress made in the implementation of the strategy. I
think there was a 5 years strategic plan shared few years ago, but can't
seem to find it on the section of website I expected it will be:
http://afrinic.net/en/library/corporate-documents
I expect new strategic plan for next couple of years would be in the making
by now. Perhaps we will be seeing something at the next meeting.
> This responsability being shared by the whole board, what can be the
metric to evaluate BOD members performance.
>
SO: I guess one of the ways performance of the board [can be]/is evaluated
is through the organisation's reports (annual report, audit report,
periodic staff management reports etc). Checking how those reports are
align/consistent with the strategic plan could be a basis for evaluation.
> Even the metrics are set, how can we evaluate the performance of a single
BOD member while their terms don't start at the same time?
>
SO: Usually the board would be in the best position to make this evaluation
as they would know who is performing or not. To the community, we see the
board as a team, so for example because someone is vocal does not usually
mean he/she is most performing within board. They are all expected to have
different skills/strength. As you know, the board as per bylaw is empowered
to discipline/sanction any board member not performing even up to removal
if necessary. That said, public misconduct/action of individual board is
one thing that can be evaluated by the community and members can on that
basis raise concern about a board member (with the option to remove if
required)
Overall, ultimate judgement is during election.
Regards
>
> Kind Regards.
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I have just recently joined the list and have been following the
discussions on the Afrinic Board with interest. Whilst I believe it's too
early for me to provide an opinion I have one contribution to make.
>>
>> Any Board has the fiduciary responsibility to drive the organization's
goals as stipulated by its members /shareholders through its Memorandum and
Articles which usually are broken down by period Strategic Plans. I believe
Boards should ultimately be judged by whether an organisation is
meeting/exceeding its mandate through the implementation of the above.
>>
>> Do we have in place such reviews? And how are they structured? Are they
public documents we can access?
>>
>> Ali Hussein
>> Principal
>> Hussein & Associates
>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
>>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>
>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>
>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>
>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com<http://www.alyhussein.com>
>>
>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 22 Dec 2015, at 10:47 AM, Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:
>>
>>> The Board was put there by AFRINIC Members in good standing.
>>> Ergo, AFRINIC Members suck at choosing Board Members.
>>>
>>> ----
>>>
>>> There is a reason why a Term only lasts three years... it allows the
>>> Membership to correct their errors.
>>>
>>> I personally think the Board does not suck and is actually pretty good.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2015-12-21 at 22:15 +0000, Keshwarsingh Nadan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> the board sucks
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> From: Owen DeLong [owen at delong.com]
>>>>
>>>> Sent: 22 December 2015 1:50
>>>>
>>>> To: General Discussions of AFRINIC
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic
board
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As a general rule, the only check and balance on a board is the voting
members who can
>>>>
>>>> choose to change out the board and the board itself who can (usually)
remove a member
>>>>
>>>> if it is necessary.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The method for measuring the effectiveness of the board is generally
up to each voter
>>>>
>>>> to determine for his/her self and I don?t see any reason this should
be different for AfriNIC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think the members of AfriNIC are perfectly capable of electing the
board and that
>>>>
>>>> there is no reason we should dictate to them what criteria they should
consider when
>>>>
>>>> making their votes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Owen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 20, 2015, at 05:14 , Chevalier du Borg <virtual.borg at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> i have been thinking about this for a while. there's a triangle of
>>>>>
>>>>> check and balance that make this system work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - board check and balance ceo (and staff?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> who does check and balance on board? members only? or the community
at large?
>>>>>
>>>>> I also like to know, what are the thing used to measure whether a
>>>>>
>>>>> board being effective? should we clarifie this mesures so that its
>>>>>
>>>>> self-evidence to everyone when board is doing good job or not? should
>>>>>
>>>>> we add that check and balance formally to responsabilite of governance
>>>>>
>>>>> committee? i belief good performance and good governance go hand in
>>>>>
>>>>> hand.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Borg le Chevalier
>>>>>
>>>>> ___________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> "Common sense is what tells us the world is flat"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> Community-Discuss mailing list
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 10:46:36 +0300
From: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
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Serge
There are tools available to do this from a single board member to the
collective. The important thing to note though is that the evaluation must
come from an informed premise of what the goals were.
Ali Hussein
Tel: +254 713 601113
On Dec 22, 2015 8:32 PM, "serge ilunga" <sergekbk at gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 Ali ,
> Mission (Goal) and Values are the key drivers of any organization.
> In the case of AfriNIC, the BOD is to put in place a strategic plan.
> This responsability being shared by the whole board, what can be the
> metric to evaluate BOD members performance.
> Even the metrics are set, how can we evaluate the performance of a single
> BOD member while their terms don't start at the same time?
>
>
> Kind Regards.
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I have just recently joined the list and have been following the
>> discussions on the Afrinic Board with interest. Whilst I believe it's too
>> early for me to provide an opinion I have one contribution to make.
>>
>> Any Board has the fiduciary responsibility to drive the organization's
>> goals as stipulated by its members /shareholders through its Memorandum and
>> Articles which usually are broken down by period Strategic Plans. I believe
>> Boards should ultimately be judged by whether an organisation is
>> meeting/exceeding its mandate through the implementation of the above.
>>
>> Do we have in place such reviews? And how are they structured? Are they
>> public documents we can access?
>>
>> *Ali Hussein*
>> *Principal*
>> *Hussein & Associates*
>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
>>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>
>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>
>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>>
>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com<http://www.alyhussein.com>
>>
>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 22 Dec 2015, at 10:47 AM, Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:
>>
>> The Board was put there by AFRINIC Members in good standing.
>> Ergo, AFRINIC Members suck at choosing Board Members.
>>
>> ----
>>
>> There is a reason why a Term only lasts three years... it allows the
>> Membership to correct their errors.
>>
>> I personally think the Board does not suck and is actually pretty good.
>>
>> On Mon, 2015-12-21 at 22:15 +0000, Keshwarsingh Nadan wrote:
>>
>> the board sucks
>>
>> ________________________________________
>>
>> From: Owen DeLong [owen at delong.com]
>>
>> Sent: 22 December 2015 1:50
>>
>> To: General Discussions of AFRINIC
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic
>> board
>>
>>
>> As a general rule, the only check and balance on a board is the voting
>> members who can
>>
>> choose to change out the board and the board itself who can (usually)
>> remove a member
>>
>> if it is necessary.
>>
>>
>> The method for measuring the effectiveness of the board is generally up
>> to each voter
>>
>> to determine for his/her self and I don?t see any reason this should be
>> different for AfriNIC.
>>
>>
>> I think the members of AfriNIC are perfectly capable of electing the
>> board and that
>>
>> there is no reason we should dictate to them what criteria they should
>> consider when
>>
>> making their votes.
>>
>>
>> Owen
>>
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2015, at 05:14 , Chevalier du Borg <virtual.borg at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> i have been thinking about this for a while. there's a triangle of
>>
>> check and balance that make this system work
>>
>>
>> - board check and balance ceo (and staff?)
>>
>>
>> who does check and balance on board? members only? or the community at
>> large?
>>
>> I also like to know, what are the thing used to measure whether a
>>
>> board being effective? should we clarifie this mesures so that its
>>
>> self-evidence to everyone when board is doing good job or not? should
>>
>> we add that check and balance formally to responsabilite of governance
>>
>> committee? i belief good performance and good governance go hand in
>>
>> hand.
>>
>>
>> thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Borg le Chevalier
>>
>> ___________________________________
>>
>> "Common sense is what tells us the world is flat"
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Community-Discuss mailing list
>>
>> Community-Discuss at afrinic.net
>>
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa
>> mje at posix.co.za Tel: +27.128070590 Cell: +27.826010496
>> For fast, reliable, low cost Internet in ZA: https://ftth.posix.co.za
>>
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>>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 11:57:08 +0300
From: Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
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+1
On 12/23/15, 10:46 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Serge
There are tools available to do this from a single board member to the collective. The important thing to note though is that the evaluation must come from an informed premise of what the goals were.
Ali Hussein
Tel: +254 713 601113
On Dec 22, 2015 8:32 PM, "serge ilunga" <sergekbk at gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Ali ,
Mission (Goal) and Values are the key drivers of any organization.
In the case of AfriNIC, the BOD is to put in place a strategic plan.
This responsability being shared by the whole board, what can be the metric to evaluate BOD members performance.
Even the metrics are set, how can we evaluate the performance of a single BOD member while their terms don't start at the same time?
Kind Regards.
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Hi All
I have just recently joined the list and have been following the discussions on the Afrinic Board with interest. Whilst I believe it's too early for me to provide an opinion I have one contribution to make.
Any Board has the fiduciary responsibility to drive the organization's goals as stipulated by its members /shareholders through its Memorandum and Articles which usually are broken down by period Strategic Plans. I believe Boards should ultimately be judged by whether an organisation is meeting/exceeding its mandate through the implementation of the above.
Do we have in place such reviews? And how are they structured? Are they public documents we can access?
Ali Hussein
Principal
Hussein & Associates
+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
Blog: www.alyhussein.com<http://www.alyhussein.com>
"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi
Sent from my iPad
On 22 Dec 2015, at 10:47 AM, Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:
The Board was put there by AFRINIC Members in good standing.
Ergo, AFRINIC Members suck at choosing Board Members.
----
There is a reason why a Term only lasts three years... it allows the
Membership to correct their errors.
I personally think the Board does not suck and is actually pretty good.
On Mon, 2015-12-21 at 22:15 +0000, Keshwarsingh Nadan wrote:
the board sucks
________________________________________
From: Owen DeLong [owen at delong.com]
Sent: 22 December 2015 1:50
To: General Discussions of AFRINIC
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board
As a general rule, the only check and balance on a board is the voting members who can
choose to change out the board and the board itself who can (usually) remove a member
if it is necessary.
The method for measuring the effectiveness of the board is generally up to each voter
to determine for his/her self and I don?t see any reason this should be different for AfriNIC.
I think the members of AfriNIC are perfectly capable of electing the board and that
there is no reason we should dictate to them what criteria they should consider when
making their votes.
Owen
On Dec 20, 2015, at 05:14 , Chevalier du Borg <virtual.borg at gmail.com> wrote:
i have been thinking about this for a while. there's a triangle of
check and balance that make this system work
- board check and balance ceo (and staff?)
who does check and balance on board? members only? or the community at large?
I also like to know, what are the thing used to measure whether a
board being effective? should we clarifie this mesures so that its
self-evidence to everyone when board is doing good job or not? should
we add that check and balance formally to responsabilite of governance
committee? i belief good performance and good governance go hand in
hand.
thoughts?
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 14:29:37 +0300
From: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic
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Serge
My understanding of board responsibility is that it's collective. The only place/time I see where individual board members are held accountable is during AGMs where members/shareholders vote to retain or replace board members.
It's possible that there is a better way of evaluating individual board members but haven't come across one yet..:-)
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> On 22 Dec 2015, at 8:31 PM, serge ilunga <sergekbk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 Ali ,
> Mission (Goal) and Values are the key drivers of any organization.
> In the case of AfriNIC, the BOD is to put in place a strategic plan.
> This responsability being shared by the whole board, what can be the metric to evaluate BOD members performance.
> Even the metrics are set, how can we evaluate the performance of a single BOD member while their terms don't start at the same time?
>
>
> Kind Regards.
>
>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> I have just recently joined the list and have been following the discussions on the Afrinic Board with interest. Whilst I believe it's too early for me to provide an opinion I have one contribution to make.
>>
>> Any Board has the fiduciary responsibility to drive the organization's goals as stipulated by its members /shareholders through its Memorandum and Articles which usually are broken down by period Strategic Plans. I believe Boards should ultimately be judged by whether an organisation is meeting/exceeding its mandate through the implementation of the above.
>>
>> Do we have in place such reviews? And how are they structured? Are they public documents we can access?
>>
>> Ali Hussein
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>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 22 Dec 2015, at 10:47 AM, Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:
>>>
>>> The Board was put there by AFRINIC Members in good standing.
>>> Ergo, AFRINIC Members suck at choosing Board Members.
>>>
>>> ----
>>>
>>> There is a reason why a Term only lasts three years... it allows the
>>> Membership to correct their errors.
>>>
>>> I personally think the Board does not suck and is actually pretty good.
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 2015-12-21 at 22:15 +0000, Keshwarsingh Nadan wrote:
>>>> the board sucks
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Owen DeLong [owen at delong.com]
>>>> Sent: 22 December 2015 1:50
>>>> To: General Discussions of AFRINIC
>>>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] How to mesure performance of afrinic board
>>>>
>>>> As a general rule, the only check and balance on a board is the voting members who can
>>>> choose to change out the board and the board itself who can (usually) remove a member
>>>> if it is necessary.
>>>>
>>>> The method for measuring the effectiveness of the board is generally up to each voter
>>>> to determine for his/her self and I don?t see any reason this should be different for AfriNIC.
>>>>
>>>> I think the members of AfriNIC are perfectly capable of electing the board and that
>>>> there is no reason we should dictate to them what criteria they should consider when
>>>> making their votes.
>>>>
>>>> Owen
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 20, 2015, at 05:14 , Chevalier du Borg <virtual.borg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> i have been thinking about this for a while. there's a triangle of
>>>>> check and balance that make this system work
>>>>>
>>>>> - board check and balance ceo (and staff?)
>>>>>
>>>>> who does check and balance on board? members only? or the community at large?
>>>>> I also like to know, what are the thing used to measure whether a
>>>>> board being effective? should we clarifie this mesures so that its
>>>>> self-evidence to everyone when board is doing good job or not? should
>>>>> we add that check and balance formally to responsabilite of governance
>>>>> committee? i belief good performance and good governance go hand in
>>>>> hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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