[AfrIPv6-Discuss] AfrIPv6-Discuss Digest, Vol 149, Issue 18 (Akinremi Peter)

kolawole Adewale harnthny at gmail.com
Fri Mar 15 08:00:23 UTC 2019 

Akinremi Peter well on point!
On 14 Mar 2019 20:07, <afripv6-discuss-request at afrinic.net> wrote:

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> From: Fernando Gont <fgont at si6networks.com>
> To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
> Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 Security for IPv4 Engineers
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> Folks,
>
> It is often argued that IPv4 practices should be forgotten when
> deploying IPv6, as after all IPv6 is a different protocol! But we think
> years of IPv4 operational experience should be leveraged as much as
> possible.
>
> So we are publishing IPv6 Security for IPv4 Engineers as a roadmap to
> IPv6 security that is specifically aimed at IPv4 engineers and operators.
>
> Rather than describing IPv6 in an isolated manner, it aims to re-use as
> much of the existing IPv4 knowledge and experience as possible, by
> highlighting the security issues that affect both protocols in the same
> manner, and those that are new or different for the IPv6 protocol suite.
> Additionally, it discusses the security implications arising from the
> co-existence of the IPv6 and IPv4 protocols.
>
> The document is available at:
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> https://www.internetsociety.org/resources/deploy360/ipv6/
> security/ipv4-engineers
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> Thanks!
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> Cheers,
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> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 20:06:29 +0100
> From: Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com>
> To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
> Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] AfrIPv6-Discuss Digest, Vol 146, Issue
>         12 - migrating to IPv6 (Kolawole Adewale)
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> I quite agree with you Kolawole that more awareness of IPv6 is needed. But
> thinking from a business perspective, awareness wouldn't really matter if
> old technology is working and still given a satisfactory results. I
> probably believe that it is TIME that would determine the rate of IPv6
> adoption.
>
> Regards.
> Peter
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:58 PM kolawole Adewale <harnthny at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > More awareness still needs to be done in the areas of benfits. I feel
> tech
> > operators in Africa, especially (medium ones)feel reluctant to migrate to
> > IPv6 because of their lack of awareness the IPv6 brings.
> > Kudos to AFRINIC on thier efforts.
> > On 6 Dec 2018 7:48 pm, <afripv6-discuss-request at afrinic.net> wrote:
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> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > >    1. Re: Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to
> > >       IPv6 (Noureddine IDBOUFKER)
> > >
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> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 18:47:25 +0000 (UTC)
> > > From: Noureddine IDBOUFKER <n_idboufker at yahoo.fr>
> > > To: afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net
> > > Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop
> > >         people moving to IPv6
> > > Message-ID: <152027882.5323643.1544122045102 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> > >
> > > Sure there are many opportunities behind Transition to IPv6 but
> > unfortunately, for African Operators in each country, there is also a
> risk.
> > Every day elapsed before this transition moves them towards a very risky
> > situation. I talk about Business and also technical risks. Unfortunately,
> > the majority of operators has an urgency mindset.??I am really convinced
> > that in order to encourage them to transit to IPv6, African Communities
> has
> > to focus on risks and the urgency aspect of the transition. For example
> > leading studies in order to produce a kind of SWOT Matrix, adapted to the
> > African context, establishing Strengths, Weaknesses, Threats and
> > Opportunities.
> > > Regards-----------------------------------------------
> > > Noureddine IDBOUFKERhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/idboufkernoureddine/
> > >
> > >
> > >     Le jeudi 6 d?cembre 2018 ? 15:51:06 UTC+1, Lee Howard <
> > lee.howard at retevia.net> a ?crit :
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On 12/6/18 5:22 AM, Noureddine IDBOUFKER via AfrIPv6-Discuss wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >   I think that Top management is not enough aware of business
> > opportunities behind IPv6 migration.? Sure IPv6 will give them the
> > opportunity to address a high number of objects, equipements,
> > services,....? but it is not limited to that. Top management has to
> > encourage their people to be express their innovation capabilities in a
> > such a way to contribute  to the developpement of Value Added Services.?
> > Providers who will not propose new competitive service catalogue will
> > simply die in globalized world. Top management has to know hat IPv6 is a
> > real pillar of IT governance.
> > >
> > > I agree with that. I have several presentations on business reasons for
> > IPv6, which I imagine overlap with AFRINIC's IPv6 for Executives
> training:
> > >
> > >    - Not running out of addresses, so you can keep adding customers
> > >    - Faster [1]
> > >
> > >    - Because it's faster, Google page rank is higher; more customers
> see
> > your web site
> > >
> > >    - Because it's faster, users spend more time on the page; more ad
> > revenue
> > >
> > >    - IPv6 is on by default; may present security risks if not secured
> > >    - Use addresses to identify services; easier policy routing, ACLs,
> > security, troubleshooting, etc.
> > >    - New diagnostic tools PDM [rfc8250] and maybe M-PDM
> > [draft-fear-ippm-mpdm]
> > >    - Simpler container networking [2]
> > >
> > >    - Segment Routing with IPv6: no MPLS/LDP/RSVP-TE/NSH, it's all just
> > IP. [3]
> > >
> > >
> > > The last few are cutting-edge developments that are not widely
> available
> > yet, but are examples of innovations enabled by IPv6. I didn't even list
> > "It's not NAT" because you're likely to use some kind of address sharing
> to
> > reach legacy IPv4 sites, but that need declines as others deploy, and it
> > may be cheaper than NAT44.
> > >
> > > IPv6 is cool.
> > >
> > >
> > > Lee
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6perf/XB
> > >
> > >
> > > [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF50OxZ5u4o
> > >
> > > [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUN68P6UAn0
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    Regards?
> > >   -----------------------------------------------
> > >  Noureddine IDBOUFKER
> > >
> > >       Le jeudi 6 d?cembre 2018 ? 10:57:24 UTC+1, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
> > via AfrIPv6-Discuss <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> a ?crit :
> > >
> > >
> > > Operators are informed, if you speak about ?engineers?, the problem is
> > to inform the CEOs of operator AND the CEOs of important companies in
> each
> > country (financial sectors, companies that export or have relevant web
> > sites, etc.).
> > >
> > >  ?
> > >
> > > I recall ARIN did sent a letter to them (in their region) a few years
> > ago.
> > >
> > >
> > >  Regards,
> > >
> > > Jordi
> > >
> > >  ?
> > >
> > >  ?
> > >
> > >  ?
> > >
> > > De: Pascal ANDRIANISA <pascal at irenala.edu.mg>
> > >  Responder a: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
> > >  Fecha: jueves, 6 de diciembre de 2018, 10:47
> > >  Para: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
> > >  Asunto: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop
> > people moving to IPv6
> > >
> > >  ?
> > >     Dear All,
> > >
> > > I think there is also another solution which is to inform the operators
> > in each country of the situation because if only the members who will
> apply
> > IPv6 it will not be possible to use it optimally.
> > > I do not know if a provision to that effect has already been taken but
> I
> > think that all the members are aware of the situation.
> > >
> > > Best regard,   Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA
> > >  Webmaster i RENALA
> > >  Research and Education Network for Academic and Learning Activities -
> > http://www.irenala.edu.mg/
> > >  Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement Sup?rieur et de la Recherche
> > Scientifique - Fiadanana
> > >  GSM :+261 (0) 32 46 680 29 |? +261 (0) 34 30 680 29   ?    De: "Mukom
> > Akong T." <mukom.tamon at gmail.com>
> > > ?: "IPv6 in Africa" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
> > > Envoy?: Jeudi 6 D?cembre 2018 06:41:29
> > > Objet: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop
> > people moving to IPv6   ?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying
> > decision. If something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors don't do
> > it. I do not think consumer education about IP is a good idea.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP (whether v4 or
> v6).
> > But they do care about other features that may be only possible (or
> easier,
> > or cheaper) with v6.
> > >
> > >
> > > This is one place where I see the role of governments. In the interest
> > of national development, just ban importation and sale of legacy
> equipment.
> > Similar to what is already done with type approval in telecommunications
> > today.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > ISPs buying cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they
> > can't get upgrades.
> > > > Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get resold at deep
> > discounts.
> > >
> > >
> > > I've been screaming about this for years. Even worse, some of it is
> > going to be "sold" as "next generation Internet aid or technical
> > corporation") which further cripples IPv6 deployment.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Something that has worked for some companies is an "ISP Certified"
> > sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay the costs of testing.
> > If the tests complied with the ISP's requirements, which might include
> MAP,
> > lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to put a sticker on
> their
> > box saying, "This device certified for use with $ISP." There might be a
> > business opportunity for someone who can set up a really good CPE testing
> > lab, so ISPs could outsource their testing and certification.
> > >
> > >
> > > In addition, I believe that with two days of training (regulators and
> > customs) and the appropriate infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a
> > government implement type approval for IPv6. Any regulator that wishes to
> > do this should reach out and join the waiting list by taking the
> Government
> > IPv6 Readiness Self Assessment at ?
> > >
> > > ENGLISH ? https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en
> > > FRENCH ? ?https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr
> > >
> > >
> > > > For years I have been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve
> > actively deployed and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end
> user,
> > with multiple percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration
> > statistics as a result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to
> > grow and thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and
> honest
> > about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off that
> > everyone should just move to it. ? Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is
> critical,
> > we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major problems, and
> > until start dealing with those ? we will see deployment continue to
> stutter
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree with the above. The solution is not just another open
> > "discussion" where people who have not even started any kind of
> deployment,
> > or even have a fair idea of what percentage of equipment might or might
> not
> > be v6 ready go on an on about problems they've only heard about.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Should we have a round table discussion at AIS? How can we identify
> > and make progress on resolving issues with IPv6?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Perhaps we can start with a mailing list thread of SPECIFIC issues
> > people have encountered while attempting a deployment on this mailing
> list,
> > then build up to a webinar or discussion at AIS.
> > >
> > >
> > > There are probably about 400million users using IPv6 today and growing,
> > someone somewhere has solved those problems.
> > >
> > >
> > > > The common theme in my answers above is that more people running IPv6
> > provides more weight in solving problems. If everyone would take a couple
> > of hours to do three things, we'd have a very broad base of common
> > experience to draw from:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes several revisions,
> > that's normal.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses.
> > > >
> > > > 3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone.
> > >
> > >
> > > These are things that we've helped operators implement in 1 day at our
> > deployathons (or 6 two hour sessions during helpdesk calls). It's
> > surprising how many operators need help with their address planning.
> Which
> > is why not only do we teach them how to determine how much space they
> get,
> > but also how to implement them in an IPAM.? For those interested, a video
> > of a highly attended and rated AFRINIC webinar can be found at
> > >
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s
> > >
> > > Step by step walk-through of address planning best practices and
> > implementation in an IPAM ---- no maths!
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > AFRINIC's training and IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources.
> > >
> > >
> > > The premise behind the helpdesk is this: We can find ONE operator a
> > month that's committed to deploying IPv6, we keep providing targeted
> > training and coaching to move them from one deployment milestone to
> another
> > until we get stuck with incompatible equipment or internal collaboration
> > issues. All it takes is about 4 hours investment per week. If you are
> > interested, make a request at??
> > >
> > >
> > > bit.ly/6deployEN? ?(english)
> > > bit.ly/6deployFR? ? (french)
> > >
> > > As we do this, we're also building an tremendous amount of intel on
> what
> > actually HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from real operators attempting to
> > deploy it and so far with over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that
> > incompatible equipment is not in the top 5.?  We're also realising that
> > that argument from big operators about "customers aren't asking for it"
> is
> > not true. We know of large operators that within 2 months have received
> > explicitly written requests to enable IPv6 from large corporate
> customers.
> > You don't want to see their response :(   ?  If you want to host one of
> our
> > DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country?   ?  - 5% teaching, 95% DOing
> >  -?using our Prototype?? Validate ? Develop?? Deploy framework   -
> enables
> > you hit a measurable deployment milestone within 8 hours   ?  you can
> apply
> > at:??
> > https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en?(or?https://
> vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr
> > in french)   ?  And for those who are still wondering how ready or not
> > their organisations are, take our free Organisational IPv6 Readiness
> > Assessment at??https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en? (or?
> > https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr in French)
> > > The results might provide pointers where to start the process.   ?
> > Until next time ..... be EXCELLENT
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Mukom Akong T.
> > >
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> > >
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