[AfrIPv6-Discuss] corporate apathy

Fri Oct 28 10:51:44 UTC 2016

Hi Sylvain,

Thanks, but this is my point. You are saying that we need to deploy v6 in 
order to not be left behind.

In this case, we have security people saying “if it aint broken I am not 
going to fix” – people want technical reasons not things that will happen in 
the future (yes – we, on this list, know that the future is now)

From: Sylvain Baya [mailto:abscoco at gmail.com]
Sent: 28 October 2016 11:48 AM
To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] corporate apathy

Dear all, Saul,

In a free world, you are free to orient your personal destinity to where you 
want, but when it starts to be a common destinity, your liberty becomes 
questionnable. We all have to think about, if we don't want to fall in the 
situation described by Mark. Infortunately, many organisations have theirs 
hown raisons [*] to not deploy IPv6, DNSSEC or to not implement any RFC or 
recommended practices. But are they free to impose their decision to their 
customers ? The customers must also be free to decide...

Also think about this please: Without IPv6, Internet [**] is really 
*centralised* as Minitel [***]. That can really slow innovation, even if the 
minds are business-oriented today...

 Please be free to share this [*] to that guy and all those with "good 
raisons" to not deploy IPv6 :-)

Regards,

--sb.

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[*]: IPv6 Excuses : https://twitter.com/IPv6Excuses | http://ipv6excuses.com 
| http://ipv6bingo.com

[**]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet 
<http://wikipedia.org/wiki/internet>

[***]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel 
<http://wikipedia.org/wiki/minitel>

Le mercredi 26 octobre 2016, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ 
<jordi.palet at consulintel.es <mailto:jordi.palet at consulintel.es> > a écrit :

This guy probably needs some good training and lot of additional info.

For example, he needs to know that the top 4 cellular providers in US 
already carry more than 60% IPv6 traffic (my guess is that it will be over 
75% at the end of this year), so if he wants to keep going connected to 
Internet, he should deploy native IPv6 instead of translating or anything 
else.

Saludos,
Jordi

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De: Saul Stein <saul at enetworks.co.za <mailto:saul at enetworks.co.za> >
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Fecha: miércoles, 26 de octubre de 2016, 11:36
Para: <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net <mailto:afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> >
Asunto: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] corporate apathy

    HI
    So after the last round of mails on this list, I emailed a friend of 
mine who I know head up the IT/Security for a company in the US asking if he 
makes use of v6 and if not, if he has plans to or why not and this was his 
response:

    “I am indeed in charge of 2 companies' IT in the US. We don't run IPv6 
and my guidance is to disable IPv6 on all devices and block it on the 
firewall. The reasoning behind this is that IPv6 adds complexity and a 
possible alternate communications route with no advantage that I can see. If 
you can point me towards any business justification to use IPv6 internally 
then I'd be very interested, but I haven't been swayed by the "because it's 
the right thing to do" argument.”

    I guess  this is a fairly standard response. So this is the perception 
that we need to change.  The key being no ADVANTAGE…
    Does anyone know of any short articles that have been produced to 
counter this type of argument? Cases where 6to4 natting won’t work etc?

    Firstly to send to him and secondly, perhaps that is the kind of thing 
that we need to tackle the business world with.

    Kind Regards,
    Saul Stein
    Infrastructure Manager
    t. +27 87 35 11 365
    f. +27 21 425 4537
    c. +27 82 908 5553
    e. saul at enetworks.co.za <mailto:saul at enetworks.co.za>
    www.enetworks.co.za <http://www.enetworks.co.za> 
<http://www.enetworks.co.za/>
    PO Box 2534 | Cape Town | South Africa | 8000
     <https://www.facebook.com/eNetworksSouthAfrica> 
<https://twitter.com/eNet_sa> <http://www.linkedin.com/company/enetworks>
     <http://www.enetworks.co.za/>

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