[afripv6-discuss] What have you done for IPv6 lately, since the 1st of January, 2013?

Latif LADID ("The New Internet based on IPv6") latif at ladid.lu
Wed Feb 20 19:46:59 SAST 2013

I do highly encourage this.

Make it a call to ISP's who wish to work with you on this, most probably
reading these emails and wondering how can they lift this discussion to


-----Original Message-----
From: afripv6-discuss-bounces at afrinic.net
[mailto:afripv6-discuss-bounces at afrinic.net] On Behalf Of Carlos M. Martinez
Sent: Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2013 18:37
To: IPv6 in Africa
Cc: Guy Antony Halse; 'Nishal Goburdhan'; carlos at lacnic.net
Subject: Re: [***SPAM***] RE: [afripv6-discuss] What have you done for IPv6
lately, since the 1st of January, 2013?

6rd can be deployed in a user-friendly-enough manner, given the proper CPEs
are used.

These CPEs are bound to be more expensive than the run-of-the-mill cheap
Chinese stuff ISPs usually roll. However, even stopping saying 'we don't
support IPv6' to a 'we do support IPv6 albeit it might cost you X dollars
for the new CPE' would be a giant leap forward.

X is not necessarily a big number. The E1500 I mentioned was sold at retail
at around 160 dollars in Uruguay where everything is _very_ expensive. A
large ISP could order them directly in quantities from Cisco FOB Miami and
get much better prices.

I think such a strategy could provide (a) useful deployment experience,
(b) could probably reach 1% of the installed base easily. Those two would,
IMO, be two giant steps forward.

I would gladly work together with people in ISPs who would like to fine-tune
numbers and maybe actually roll-out something.



On 2/20/13 11:02 AM, Guy Antony Halse wrote:
> On Wed 2013-02-20 (13:59), Latif LADID ("The New Internet based on IPv6")
>> You don't need native to use v6 at this stage as a v6 tunnel offers 
>> exactly the same service at least for testing purposes. Hurricane, 
>> gogo6 (or gondle)
> Joe Public DSL user isn't interested in configuring a tunnel of their 
> own or testing anything.  They simply want to be able to update Facebook.
> So yes, tunnelling works.  I do it.  Nishal does it.  Many other geeks 
> like us do it.  Until ISPs do it as a matter of course on consumer 
> CPE, it's really not going to help with the wholesale adoption of v6 
> at the edge :(
> - Guy
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