[afripv6-discuss] What have you done for IPv6 lately, since the 1st of January, 2013?

[Hisham Ibrahim]

On Feb 19, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Nishal Goburdhan wrote:

> but it's not just about apathy, or ignorance.  it's cost as well.
> in one sub-saharan country, the ex-incumbent still controls the copper (last-mile) for that country's DSL users.  the ex-incumbent's  LLU offering (it's L2TP, but let's not quibble) will allow ISPs to provision IPv6 natively instead of via tunnels.  but the cost of the LLU service is 30% more than the cost of the established mechanism for connecting DSL users.  
> 
> why - in a market that's facing ever decreasing ARPU - will you, as a broadband operator, want to pay the 30% premium if your clients can't tell the difference? 

While I hear the point you are making, the Money factor, and while it makes perfect sense,

I would argue that that is not always the case, many of the larger very profitable ISPs do not even have plans for v6, as you said 

> some - particularly the larger mobile operators - don't.  i haven't undertaken to find out why.

So why don't they?


On Feb 19, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Andrew Alston wrote:
> 
> The reality though is that a lot of ISP's in Africa rely on certain
> technologies to keep things functioning, and those technologies are simply
> very immature in v6 land.  This HAS to change.

What Andrew said about the technologies we use that are keeping us from going forward with v6 is something I have heard from many ISPs.

Is that where we should focus on first, identifying and getting rid of said technologies? then talking about deploying IPv6?

> Making the case for v6 is something that needs work, no question about it,
> even though to a lot of us its self-explanatory (v4 is finished, deal with
> it,  move on), but when you have to in the same sentence turn around and go
> "but implementing it, you're gonna lose the following functionality, and
> open the following security risks that we don't have a way to address yet"
> certainly doesn't help, and I would argue that it would be irresponsible NOT
> to address those concerns with anyone looking at IPv6, since people need the
> complete picture when making a decision.

So how have major ISPs and Operators like Verizon wireless, AT&T, Comcast, KDDI , Free and others be capable of running significant percentages of their traffic their massive networks over v6?

Hisham