[afripv6-discuss] IPv6 - The current status in the tertiaryeducation sector in South Africa

Thu Jul 14 12:02:15 SAST 2005

Hi Latif, all,

I encourage the on-line discussions as much as possible, but some times the
ISPs don't want to provide details about their infrastructure, upstream
providers, and so on, in a public list, and that's normal.

If that's the case, this should not be a stopper for getting the help !

We are doing this in other regions and is working very well, most of the
people is happy to provide the details of their networks to get the help,
but some others want to keep some confidentiality.

I've already participated in AfriNIC process previously and the people know
from me that I'm 2000% for the openness, which is not necessarily true
coming from others, sadly.

So, just to clarify, I should have said "off line in case you don't want to
do it on-line".

Regards,
Jordi

> De: Latif LADID <latif.ladid at village.uunet.lu>
> Responder a: <latif.ladid at village.uunet.lu>
> Fecha: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:36:15 +0200
> Para: <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>, 'IPv6 in Africa'
> <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
> Asunto: RE: [afripv6-discuss] IPv6 - The current status in the
> tertiaryeducation sector in South Africa
> 
> 
> 
> No off-line discussions please, this is important for everyone to know where
> to help!
> 
> 
> ___________Latif
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: afripv6-discuss-bounces at afrinic.net
> [mailto:afripv6-discuss-bounces at afrinic.net] On Behalf Of JORDI PALET
> MARTINEZ
> Sent: 14 July 2005 09:38
> To: IPv6 in Africa
> Subject: Re: [afripv6-discuss] IPv6 - The current status in the
> tertiaryeducation sector in South Africa
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> Once more I want to offer my help to enable both native and tunneled IPv6 in
> the region.
> 
> Regarding this specific case, in order to move on, the first question will
> be to make sure if there is any way to get a native service (or a tunneled
> one in the worst case) with your own upstream providers. If you want to
> provide me the information about who are the upstream providers (off-line),
> I will be able, most probably, to help on that.
> 
> I will be happy also to attend that workshop if that could help, just let me
> know the details.
> 
> Regards,
> Jordi
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> De: Andrew Alston <aalston at its.uct.ac.za> Responder a: IPv6 in Africa
>> <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
>> Fecha: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:25:21 +0200
>> Para: <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
>> Asunto: [afripv6-discuss] IPv6 - The current status in the tertiary
>> education sector in South Africa
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I thought for interests sake I'd share with the list the current
>> status of IPv6 from the Tenet point of view (What we have, what we
>> currently are doing etc).
>> 
>> Tenet owns its own IPv6 Block, which obviously needed to be announced,
>> and at the same time customers (the tertiary education units), needed
>> to be able to start using this.  Currently there are no ISP's that I
>> know of in South Africa doing native IPv6 internationally (if Im wrong
>> here, someone please correct me).
>> 
>> So after some negotiations we dropped tunnels to 2 points into Europe
>> and announced our 2001:548::/32 block via AS 6149.
>> 
>> Tenet now offers any of its customers an IPv6 tunnel end point should
>> they so wish.  Obviously said customers would need to apply for IPv6
>> space from Tenet first. (Tenet is currently an LIR for IPv6 space in
>> the academic environment).  Currently there are a number of v6 blocks
>> allocated to institutions, with 2 institutions with active tunnels and
>> live utilization of their v6 blocks.
>> 
>> At the moment there is a debate over the provision of IPv6 space to
>> tertiary education units with regards to the size of the V6 blocks.  I
>> discussed this matter in Barcelona at the IPv6 conference with some of
>> the other NREN's and there seemed to be some fairly mixed opinions,
>> but a lot of the NREN's were allocating /48s per facuilty, rather than
>> per institution, which typically would mean the allocation of /44s, or
>> perhaps /43s to the average university in South Africa.
>> 
>> At current institutions are allocated /48s, but the starting points of
>> the blocks are spaced in such a way that should the eventual decision
>> to be taken to allocate on a /44 basis rather, this could be done
>> without renumbering existing people.
>> 
>> I have also attempted to contact various ISP's in South Africa who I
>> have heard either have, or are planning some form of V6 implementation
>> to discuss peering arrangements with Tenet, unfortunatly so far this
>> has not yielded huge success, but I think as IPv6 rollout in South
>> Africa grows, this will become easier. (If there are any ISP's in
>> South Africa that are currently utilizing IPv6 that are interested in
>> talking peering, please feel free to mail me off list).
>> 
>> So, with all that being said, where to from here.
>> 
>> I think to start with, we need to encourage the use of v6 in the
>> institutions.  To this end there is a v6 workshop planned for the
>> tertiary education units in September which will kindly be presented
>> by 6diss.  Hopefully this will produce positive reaction and encourage
>> the rollout.
>> 
>> Anyway, thats where we currently sit with regards to v6.
>> 
>> Many Thanks
>> Andrew Alston
>> Tenet - IPv6 Consultant
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