[AfrICANN-discuss] Re: [technical-issues] Fwd: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- Remaining IPv4 Addresses to be Redistributed to Regional Internet Registries | Address Redistribution Signals that IPv4 is Nearing Total Exhaustion

[Seun Ojedeji]

Perhaps you should read your previous message again; You imply Africa begs
for handbook and I say that is not usually the problem hindering v6
deployment in Africa, indicating what I think is the problem.
Since from your recent response you seem to have also agreed that the
problem isn't technical capabilities then I rest my case.

Regards

sent from Google nexus 4
kindly excuse brevity and typos.
On 21 May 2014 17:41, "Dr Eberhard Lisse" <el at lisse.na> wrote:

> You got me started there, pal!
>
> on 2014-05-21, 16:58 Seun Ojedeji said the following:
> > sent from Google nexus 4
> > kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> > On 21 May 2014 12:28, "Dr Eberhard Lisse" <el at lisse.na
> > <mailto:el at lisse.na>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Olivier,
> >>
> >>
> >> Some ISPs, in particular in developing countries find access to
> >> resources to renew their (whole) infrastructure not as easy as
> >> others.
> >>
> > And what could be the cause?
>
> Has been amply discussed already in this thread.
>
> >> I prefer reasonably well functioning obsolete infrastructure to
> >> very well functioning unavailable infrastructure.
> >>
> > Are you saying this is the mindset of the African ISPs or the
> > clients?
>
> No, I am saying that I prefer reasonably well functioning obsolete
> infrastructure to very well functioning unavailable infrastructure.
>
> >> The approach must be, even if extremely difficult to implement,
> >> do find ways of upgrading infrastructure in a way that doesn't
> >> break the bank :-)-O.
> >>
> > Difficulty in implementation is not the problem.  The effect on
> > bank is ;)
> >>
> >> This, however, and this is where I agree with you, violently
> >> :-)-O, must not serve as an excuse for us lazy Africans begging
> >> for handouts, again.
> >>
> > At times I wonder why you say things this way.
>
> Because it is true?
>
> > Even developed nations seeks for capacity building.  If technical
> > capacity is what is hindering some(which is not likely) then there
> > is noting wrong about seeking help!
>
> It's not even technical Capacity or the lack thereof.
>
> For example DNS is simple, well described, ample books such as
> Cricket Liu's bible, DNSSEC is not that difficult, equally well
> described, ample books.  An elderly Gynaecologist can figure it out.
> But African powerhouses such as .NG, .KE and .ZA can't?  PULEEZE!!!!
>
> IPv6 is not that difficult, well described, ample books, but the
> hardware becomes a factor (see above).  Still we do nothing about
> it.  Other than talk.  And beg for handouts.
>
> And of course get crap hardware that are not just too obsolete even
> for our reasonable requirements, if even working, but the only
> reason it gets dumped here is it's too expensive to dispose of in an
> environmentally friendly way in the donor country.
>
> Never mind that a fictitious sum is then allocated as "worth" and
> headlined as "Funds Received".
>
> Capacity doesn't come from flying business class to work shops and
> complaining in the bar every night how difficult it is to bring the
> (luxury) purchases made with it through customs at home.
>
> Capacity doesn't come from Funding Partners.  They only pay
> consultants (of their own nationalities) to set something up which
> crumbles 27 seconds after the funding runs out.
>
> It's the Initiative that is lacking.  I can guarantee you if you had
> a local Registrar capable of EPP and the like and conform with
> things like reporting and access control/security, and needed just
> the little push to make it to ICANN approval (for .AFRICA for
> example) I really don't think it would happen.
>
> Mouhammed Diop did it even before .SN had EPP.
>
> I don't know whether our local guys are thinking about it, but one
> managed to get EPP sorted themselves (with a little help from us)
> and another one is thinking about it.
>
> I must also confess that I don't have a clue whether our own local
> name servers can do IPv6, but I will find this out, if so add the
> addresses and if not have a friendly chat with our hoster :-)-O
>
> >> Please note that I have CCed the AFRICANN list :-)-O
> >>
> > Yeah and I have filleted out the list I think I don't currently
> > belong to
>
> Don't worry, I have put it back in.
>
> el
>
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