[AfrICANN-discuss] RE: [technical-issues] Fwd: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- Remaining IPv4 Addresses to be Redistributed to Regional Internet Registries | Address Redistribution Signals that IPv4 is Nearing Total Exhaustion

[Michele Neylon - Blacknight]

Eberhard

TBH that's an issue in Ireland and other EU countries as well
A LOT of the ISPs are stretched thin economically - they paid out massive amounts of money for some licenses and probably have had little or no return
I look at a couple of the big Irish ones who have changed hands several times and you'd wonder if they have the resources financially to even consider it .. 

BUT they *should* make IPv6 available on new installs and to those of us who have the equipment to use it 

I remember being offered IPv6 in Milan back in 2002 .. *sigh*

Regards

Michele


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-----Original Message-----
From: Dr Eberhard Lisse [mailto:el at lisse.NA] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:23 PM
To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; ocl at gih.com; technical-issues at atlarge-lists.icann.org
Cc: africann at afrinic.net
Subject: Re: [technical-issues] Fwd: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- Remaining IPv4 Addresses to be Redistributed to Regional Internet Registries | Address Redistribution Signals that IPv4 is Nearing Total Exhaustion

Olivier,

I have to take issue somewhat with your statement sympathy wise.


Some ISPs, in particular in developing countries find access to resources to renew their (whole) infrastructure not as easy as others.

I prefer reasonably well functioning obsolete infrastructure to very well functioning unavailable infrastructure.

Maybe this is because even though becoming rightly spoiled from current bandwidth offerings, I do remember uucp/uuPC and leased lines with 9600 bps :-)-O

The approach must be, even if extremely difficult to implement, do find ways of upgrading infrastructure in a way that doesn't break the bank :-)-O.

This, however, and this is where I agree with you, violently :-)-O, must not serve as an excuse for us lazy Africans begging for handouts, again.

Please note that I have CCed the AFRICANN list :-)-O

el

on 2014-05-21, 11:40 Michele Neylon - Blacknight said the following:
> Olivier
> 
>  
> 
> The problems are at two levels:
> 
>  
> 
> 1- end user equipment
> 
> 2 - network level
> 
>  
> 
> The network level issues *should* be addressed by most of the bigger 
> ISPs and telcos, especially as so many of them have been rolling out 
> newer services like 4G, fibre etc.,
> 
> The "end user" bit, however, is a bit thornier.  Any large ISP would 
> have thousands of DSL modems, routers etc., that won't support IPv6 
> and probably can't be upgraded ..
> 
>  
> 
> I know that in some countries ISPs have taken the lead, but 
> unfortunately Ireland and several other countries aren't on that list
> 
> Over here there is at present only one or two small commercial ISPs 
> over native v6, all the others ran trials but never actually turned it 
> on
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
>  
> 
> Michele
[...]
> *From:*Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond [mailto:ocl at gih.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:17 AM
> *To:* Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Technical issues
> *Subject:* Re: [technical-issues] Fwd: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News 
> Alert
> -- Remaining IPv4 Addresses to be Redistributed to Regional Internet 
> Registries | Address Redistribution Signals that IPv4 is Nearing Total 
> Exhaustion
> 
>  
> 
> Dear Michele,
> 
> why?  After all, aren't those ISPs which are lagging going to be 
> suffering more than others by the lack of IPv4 addresses?
> Personally, I have no sympathy for ISPs that rely on an obsolete 
> infrastructure due to their own lack of foresight.
> Kind regards,
> 
> Olivier
> 
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