[AfrICANN-discuss] "Vint Cerf on ICANN and NTIA"

Mon Jul 28 18:28:56 SAST 2014

+1 Mwenda! And thanks to Dr. Nii for refocussing our discussion on the
ongoing IANA Stewardship transition process. 

Great initiatives and great work at the national level. This is the way to
go
I also agree that when building our capacities, we must continue
participating
The rest of the world will not wait for us. 

We have two great African sons in the IANA Stewardship transition
coordination Group and I trust them enough to support a proposal than will
safeguard the Open Internet which is critical for the social and economic
development of Africa and the world as well. I know the Internet Governance
is mostly a participative democracy than a representative democracy but
sometimes we need people with great knowledge on an issue to represent us. 

While questioning IANA stewardship and accountability of ICANN, we should
also question accountability and stewardship of our national and regional
“Internet functions” (ccTLDs, LIRs, RIR, sea cables
)

Best regards,

Victor.

De : africann-bounces at afrinic.net [mailto:africann-bounces at afrinic.net] De
la part de Mwendwa Kivuva
Envoyé : Monday, July 28, 2014 11:30 AM
À : AfrICANN list
Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] "Vint Cerf on ICANN and NTIA"

Dr. Mshana, that is a very valid point, It's up to us in our respective
roles in society to advocate for our Universities to adopt courses that are
relevant with the times. In Kenya for example, there are several
universities that teach courses with semblance to IG. As the leadership of
ISOC Kenya chapter, we took the initiative of setting up 5 remote hubs in
Universities to participate in ICANN 50, 3 of those remote hubs were
successful. We are changing the community one person at a time. As the
Kenyan Internet society, we build interest on our students by partnering
with Universities in giving talks on IG, and ensure we invite speakers from
industry who are seasoned in IG matters to expose the students to the
changing times. SO the onus is on each of us.

Dr. Nii, I support your call. As we build capacity in the background, let us
move on to trending IG issues of our times. For example, what is the
relevance of the Istanbul IGF to us? What is Africa taking to the meeting,
and what should we take out of it? How can we ensure we are not sidelined
come September 2015 after the IANA transition? Should we always be asking
for handouts or we can sit at the table as equals? How do we build the DNS
business in Africa from the current situation we are in? This is a thread
that is begging to be started.

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On 28 July 2014 16:46, Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:

Hi

Actually I was hoping we would be discussing the transition, the NTIA
statement, the process, what issues if any, what ways to get involved, what
expectations, what benefits to Africa, why important Africa genuinely
involved, how we communicate with national authorities on subject etc. That
is more specific and we also have an opportunity to do something about it or
weigh in on topic for the Internet 

Although national strategies are very important they are an ongoing dialog
nationally. I doubt if africann list can do much about policy in nation
states from here...;-) but africann list can constructively include itself
in the ongoing consultations on the stewardship transition 

Great video

Happy Eid

Nii

On Jul 28, 2014, at 12:23, Dr Yassin Mshana <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:

Spot on Mamado!

That seems to be one of the entry points (through formal education). That is
why there is need to work with respective govt authorities as suggested
earlier on....therefore credible ICT Policies may be necessary in many
cases.

Next...the publicity issue....that is why very little is known about what is
being done....need to do more in that....

Is it time to review and see how these could be amplified through the
Strategy for Africa? 

Cheers

Yassin

On 28 July 2014 13:22, Mamadou LO <alfamamadou at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi Victor and ALL

Talking about education; I would like to say that I cannot imagine nowadays
training an engineer without internet governance courses. Training on
training governance is a big issue in Africa above all in french speaking
countries. As Kivuva said, we must focus on internet governance; not only at
ICANN. To address this issue, I think first step must be introducing
internet governance courses at University.
By the way; we face a general problem of information and communication
(press) on internet governance within African region. Access to information
become more and more easier with mailing lists and other social network; but
the main issue here, is informations exploitation for a better usage of
actors and populations.

Reagards!

Mamadou 

> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:20:43 +0300
> From: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com
> To: ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz; africann at afrinic.net

> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] "Vint Cerf on ICANN and NTIA"

> CC: 

> 
> On empowering our comrades within the continent, we should not only
> focus on ICANN. We should focus on the bigger picture of Internet
> Governance, to which ICANN is a small subset. A great beginning is the
> ISOC's Next Generation Leaders online training which is holistic,
> giving great perspectives on where we have come from, the current
> landscape, and all actors in the space, ICANN included. I am sure the
> NEPAD online training will be just as enriching. An ICANN fellowship
> would not be enough without understanding the bigger picture of IG.
> 
> Of course the biggest winner in all this is Self Drive and Interest
> from newcomers from Africa
> 
> On 28/07/2014, Victor Ndonnang <ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz> wrote:
> > +1 Seun,
> >
> >
> >
> > There are also resources and programs within ICANN focusing to educate
and
> > engage newcomers interesting in what ICANN does as an important part of
the
> > Internet and Internet Governance ecosystems. The links to those
resources
> > and programs are follow:
> >
> >
> >
> > ICANN Learn
> >
> > http://learn.icann.org/
> >
> >
> >
> > The Fellowship Program
> >
> > https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowships-2012-02-25-en
> >
> > The NewComer Program
> >
> > https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/newcomers-2012-06-18-en
> >
> >
> >
> > ISOC had also launched recently an ELearning Platform for Internet
> > Governance and more:
> >
> > http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/inforum-learn-online
> >
> >
> >
> > And remember, engagement is the best way to learn...
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Victor.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > De : africann-bounces at afrinic.net [mailto:africann-bounces at afrinic.net]
De
> > la part de Seun Ojedeji
> > Envoyé : Sunday, July 27, 2014 3:37 AM
> > À : africann at afrinic.net
> > Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] "Vint Cerf on ICANN and NTIA"
> >
> >
> >
> > @Dr Yassin I had sent the message below as a pm to Hafedh, now sharing
on
> > the list. Perhaps it can be a response to the concern of getting more
> > educated about ICANN.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > sent from Google nexus 4
> > kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> >
> > On 26 Jul 2014 20:32, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Hafedh,
> >
> > Could you perhaps explain further on why you think ICANN running
> > certification programs like CISCO et all will help improve understanding
and
> > participation in ICANN processes? Perhaps it will help to first
understand
> > the motive for certification in the first place vis the role of ICANN.
All
> > ICANN does is provide service and because of its strategic role on the
> > internet, there is need to ensure that it provides its service
efficiently.
> > This is where accountability, participation et all comes into play; you
> > don't need certification to participate and learn within the community;
what
> > you need is intentional interest to participate through getting involved
in
> > the community.
> >
> > As to outreaches, ICANN, and the region RIR are sure making effort to
get
> > people more people involved, nevertheless i agree that those efforts
needs
> > to increase. ICANN is quite large community and can be really
challenging to
> > understand all its processes, but it also has a great community of
people
> > who are willing to explain things to you and then you as an individual
will
> > decide which of those information to ponder upon.
> >
> > Internet governance has become an important imperative and i hope ICANN
and
> > other organisation would continue to support initiative geared towards
> > establishing school of internet governance in the region.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > PS: Below are the urls that i mentioned in my previous mail:
> >
http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profiles/blogs/nepad-call-for-applica
tions-for-online-training-internet-governan
> >
http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/iana-oversight-transition/community-enga
gement
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM, hafedh <hafedhyahmadi at hotmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Here are some insights when it comes to Internet governance trainings
and
> > capacity building in Africa. Although internet outreach is still a big
issue
> > in Africa, I see two critical outreach engines for Africans to boost
skills
> > development and capacity building about internet governance and the core
> > values of ICANN as well as the technical skills such IPv6 and DNSSEC,
Root
> > Server, etc . First, a breadth engine is required to maximize the
outreach
> > carrying out the primary ICANN school content like the principles,
> > definitions and all content for new comers and ordinary audiences,
Second
> > the depth engine which should target an upper level advanced audience
where
> > trainings are more in depth about internet governance such what does
mean
> > transparency, human rights in internet, neutrality of the net, and
advanced
> > level on IPv6 deployment, whta's ICANN accountability means in the
> > transition period, etc ... I would even suggest an ICANN certification
> > Program, a kind of international accredited institution, like CISCO,
> > Microaoft or oracle academy!! Last and not least, when reading this
> > discussion, I jumped on my chair cause the subject is so vibrant and
> > relevant to reshape the future of internet governance in Africa.
Education
> > and training is the force of the future, I have been engaged on this
> > subject since a while as part of my engineering concerns on internet, I
> > have gathered a set of data, content, I shared feedbacks with some ICANN
> > friends, etc .. let's get together to share thoughts and ideas, its
> > important to reanimate such a great debate for a concrete plan or action
> >
> >
> >
> > Hafedh Al yahmadi.
> >
> > International TIC expert
> >
> > DG - CIC, tunis
> >
> > _____
> >
> > Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 23:29:12 +0200
> > From: ymshana2003 at gmail.com
> > To: africann at afrinic.net
> > Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] "Vint Cerf on ICANN and NTIA"
> >
> >
> >
> > Just to add a little...I think that we need to have 'ICANN School' or
> > College in that matter to educate people in Internet Governance. Any
> > takers?
> > There is enough misinformation in the air right now....that is why I
would
> > like to suggest so since the Internet nerds a specific and special
approach
> > to its global existence and reach at the moment.....I would not be
> > comfortable with some suggestions since 'Trust and Truth' are a very
hard
> > Currency to trade on ..
> > It's me Yassin
> >
> > On 25 Jul 2014 17:18, "oboh eromonsele" <oboheromon at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I hope the ICANN is 100% international multistakeholder community ???
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> >
> > Eromonsele Oboh
> >
> > +2348169445429 <tel:%2B2348169445429> 
> >
> > Twitter: @am_eromz
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Mamadou LO <alfamamadou at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Great video explainer: Vint Cerf on ICANN and NTIA
> >
> > http://boingboing.net/2014/07/24/great-video-explainer-vint-ce.html
> >
> > Simple Overview of ICANN and the IANA Transition by Vint Cerf
> >
<http://www.circleid.com/posts/simple_overview_of_icann_and_the_iana_transit
ion_by_vint_cerf_animated/>
> >
> >
http://www.circleid.com/posts/simple_overview_of_icann_and_the_iana_transiti
on_by_vint_cerf_animated/
> >
> > Regards!!
> >
> > Mamadou
> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Seun Ojedeji,
> > Federal University Oye-Ekiti
> > web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng
> > Mobile: +2348035233535 <tel:%2B2348035233535> 
> > alt email: <http://goog_1872880453> seun.ojedeji at fuoye.edu.ng
> >
> > The key to understanding is humility - my view !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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