Re: _[AfrICANN-discuss]_Fadi_Chehadé:_If_We_Fra gment_The_Internet, _'It_Will_Not_Be_The_Interne =?utf-8?Q?t=5FAs=5FWe=5FKnow=5FIt'=5F?=

Mon Feb 3 22:03:15 SAST 2014

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En date de : Lun 3.2.14, Adiel Akplogan <adiel at afrinic.net> a écrit :

 Objet: Re: _[AfrICANN-discuss]_Fadi_Chehadé:_If_We_Fra gment_The_Internet, _'It_Will_Not_Be_The_Interne =?utf-8?Q?t=5FAs=5FWe=5FKnow=5FIt'=5F?=
 À: "Pierre Lotis NANKEP" <lnankep at yahoo.fr>, "AfrICANN list" <africann at afrinic.net>
 Date: Lundi 3 février 2014, 19h50

 On 2014-02-02, at 14:21 PM, Pierre
 Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>
 wrote:
 > Between the desire / wish / dream and the reality,
 there is a gap ... a big gap!
 > 
 > NSA in the U.S. and other intelligence services or
 espionages (Western countries, Chinese, ...) will eventually
 convince Nations / Sovereign State to have their own
 Internet. 

 In this very context, I guess you meant to say each county
 will really start thinking about defining their legal 
 and policy framework related to privacy and data protection,
 right?  Wen we are still struggling to managed simple
 ccTLDs, I can hardly see how we can create and manage our
 own Internet at country level (at least not this generation
 - because that will be a call for disaster). Let get real! A
 tentative to fragment the **internet** in Africa is what is
 going to completely drag us even more behind as the social
 and economical impact will be terrible. As African what we
 need is to is to really understand the digital era we are
 getting in, not driven by just government will and wishes
 but by rather by user's needs. Instead of being just
 observer of these changes we should get ready to participate
 with our own interest in mind. We need to continue to fight
 and defend an Internet that is a vehicle for permission-less
 innovation and communication for social and economic
 development of our region (the permission-less innovation
 will be key for us).

 You may want to read this report that also address the
 economic impact of a fragmented Internet http://www.bcg.com/documents/file100409.pdf 

 > Africa will lose nothing, let's not be alarmist, Africa
 must understand the issues and adapt itself to survive … 

 Really? how do you know? Which data are you using to make
 such a bold statement that Africa will loose nothing? from
 where I'm seating and the use I have for the Internet I know
 for sure that I personally will lost.

 > According to their different strategic interests,
 Nations / Sovereign States will interconnect their Internet
 (p2p, multilateral peering, etc …)

 Are you talking about government interests or users
 interests? Because the difference matter.

 > The wars in Libya, Syria, Egypt, Sudan, CAR, ...
 reinforce our position with regard to the future of Internet
 architecture. 

 How?

 > In addition, political unrest manipulated by the major
 world powers (eg, Ukraine, Thailand, etc ...) are also
 drawing our attention to the precautions for the benefit of
 our peoples. 

 So the solution is to closeup instead of informing?

 > We must stop playing activists just to please our
 former colonial masters …

 Agree, but at the same time that is where we are failing
 because when we start being activist for our own cause, we
 lack rational data, evidence to support of our position. We
 position ourselves in opposition just to oppose instead of
 with clear goal and strategy.

 > Globalization has not only the positive effects …

 Sure, we need to articulate the negative effects on us and
 come up with our alternatives.

 - a.

 >  Le Samedi 1 février 2014 8h52, "jolufuye at aficta.org"
 <jolufuye at aficta.org>
 a écrit :
 > I agree...
 > 
 > Business in Africa that is gathering momentum will slow
 down drastically, job opportunities will diminish, youth
 restiveness will increase; and the much celebrated free flow
 of information will be a thing of the past.
 > 
 > We must work to keep the Internet one.
 > 
 > Regards,
 > 
 >
 --------------------------------------------------------------
 > Jimson Olufuye, fncs, ficma, PhD
 > CEO Kontemporary® 
 > Chair, AfICTA
 > connecting African ICT players & 
 > ... fulfilling the promise of the Digital Age for
 everyone in Africa.
 > www.aficta.org 
 > www.kontemporary.net.ng
 > M: +234 802 3183252
 > Skype: jolufuye 
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 > -------- Original Message --------
 > Subject:
 Re:_[AfrICANN-discuss]_Fadi_Chehadé:_If_We_Fra
 > gment_The_Internet, _'It_Will_Not_Be_The_Interne
 > =?utf-8?Q?t=5FAs=5FWe=5FKnow=5FIt'=5F?=
 > From: Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com>
 > Date: Fri, January 31, 2014 7:59 pm
 > To: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>,
 AfrICANN list
 > <africann at afrinic.net>
 > Cc: AfrICANN list <africann at afrinic.net>
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > On Jan 31, 2014, at 8:10, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>
 wrote:
 > 
 >> For questions of sovereignty and geostrategy,
 requirement of a non-fragmented Internet in the future is a
 utopia.
 >> The only possible and justifiable reason for not
 having a fragmented Internet configuration is within a
 nation or state ..
 >> 
 > ...and counties, provinces, federal states and
 districts within nations as well?
 > 
 > No. Africa would lose in a fragmented Internet
 > 
 >>  
 >> -- 
 >> Pierre Lotis NANKEP 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Le Vendredi 31 janvier 2014 0h07, Victor Ndonnang
 <ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz>
 a écrit :
 >> No one wants a fragmented Internet…Interesting
 interview of the ICANN CEO about the importance of keeping
 the Internet One and Open.
 >>  
 >> "If we cannot find a way to govern the Internet in
 an equal footing, in an open transparent way this year, we
 might descend into a fragmented version of the Internet,"
 Chehadé said. "The moment we fragment the Internet it is
 possible there will be tariffs between borders, there will
 be rules... it will not be the internet as we know it."
 >>  
 >> More on: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/24/fadi-chehade-davos_n_4635949.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=4156157,b=facebook
 >>  
 >> Victor Ndonnang.
 >> 
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