Re: _[AfrICANN-discuss]_Fadi_Chehadé:_If_We_Fra gment_The_Internet, _'It_Will_Not_Be_The_Interne =?utf-8?Q?t=5FAs=5FWe=5FKnow=5FIt'=5F?=

Mon Feb 3 20:50:34 SAST 2014

On 2014-02-02, at 14:21 PM, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Between the desire / wish / dream and the reality, there is a gap ... a big gap!
> 
> NSA in the U.S. and other intelligence services or espionages (Western countries, Chinese, ...) will eventually convince Nations / Sovereign State to have their own Internet. 

In this very context, I guess you meant to say each county will really start thinking about defining their legal  and policy framework related to privacy and data protection, right?  Wen we are still struggling to managed simple ccTLDs, I can hardly see how we can create and manage our own Internet at country level (at least not this generation - because that will be a call for disaster). Let get real! A tentative to fragment the **internet** in Africa is what is going to completely drag us even more behind as the social and economical impact will be terrible. As African what we need is to is to really understand the digital era we are getting in, not driven by just government will and wishes but by rather by user's needs. Instead of being just observer of these changes we should get ready to participate with our own interest in mind. We need to continue to fight and defend an Internet that is a vehicle for permission-less innovation and communication for social and economic development of our region (the permission-less innovation will be key for us).

You may want to read this report that also address the economic impact of a fragmented Internet http://www.bcg.com/documents/file100409.pdf 

> Africa will lose nothing, let's not be alarmist, Africa must understand the issues and adapt itself to survive … 

Really? how do you know? Which data are you using to make such a bold statement that Africa will loose nothing? from where I'm seating and the use I have for the Internet I know for sure that I personally will lost.

> According to their different strategic interests, Nations / Sovereign States will interconnect their Internet (p2p, multilateral peering, etc …)

Are you talking about government interests or users interests? Because the difference matter.

> The wars in Libya, Syria, Egypt, Sudan, CAR, ... reinforce our position with regard to the future of Internet architecture. 

How?

> In addition, political unrest manipulated by the major world powers (eg, Ukraine, Thailand, etc ...) are also drawing our attention to the precautions for the benefit of our peoples. 

So the solution is to closeup instead of informing?

> We must stop playing activists just to please our former colonial masters …

Agree, but at the same time that is where we are failing because when we start being activist for our own cause, we lack rational data, evidence to support of our position. We position ourselves in opposition just to oppose instead of with clear goal and strategy.

> Globalization has not only the positive effects …

Sure, we need to articulate the negative effects on us and come up with our alternatives.

- a.

>  Le Samedi 1 février 2014 8h52, "jolufuye at aficta.org" <jolufuye at aficta.org> a écrit :
> I agree...
> 
> Business in Africa that is gathering momentum will slow down drastically, job opportunities will diminish, youth restiveness will increase; and the much celebrated free flow of information will be a thing of the past.
> 
> We must work to keep the Internet one.
> 
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> Subject: Re:_[AfrICANN-discuss]_Fadi_Chehadé:_If_We_Fra
> gment_The_Internet, _'It_Will_Not_Be_The_Interne
> =?utf-8?Q?t=5FAs=5FWe=5FKnow=5FIt'=5F?=
> From: Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com>
> Date: Fri, January 31, 2014 7:59 pm
> To: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>, AfrICANN list
> <africann at afrinic.net>
> Cc: AfrICANN list <africann at afrinic.net>
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> On Jan 31, 2014, at 8:10, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:
> 
>> For questions of sovereignty and geostrategy, requirement of a non-fragmented Internet in the future is a utopia.
>> The only possible and justifiable reason for not having a fragmented Internet configuration is within a nation or state ..
>> 
> ...and counties, provinces, federal states and districts within nations as well?
> 
> No. Africa would lose in a fragmented Internet
> 
>>  
>> -- 
>> Pierre Lotis NANKEP 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Le Vendredi 31 janvier 2014 0h07, Victor Ndonnang <ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz> a écrit :
>> No one wants a fragmented Internet…Interesting interview of the ICANN CEO about the importance of keeping the Internet One and Open.
>>  
>> "If we cannot find a way to govern the Internet in an equal footing, in an open transparent way this year, we might descend into a fragmented version of the Internet," Chehadé said. "The moment we fragment the Internet it is possible there will be tariffs between borders, there will be rules... it will not be the internet as we know it."
>>  
>> More on: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/24/fadi-chehade-davos_n_4635949.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=4156157,b=facebook
>>  
>> Victor Ndonnang.
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