[AfrICANN-discuss] [africs-ig] Africa report

Wed May 29 08:19:33 SAST 2013

+1
I strongly support Adiel comments and suggestion. We have to stop asking
others to do the work that we can easily start it ourselves and maybe as
for help later. It is true that regional or sub-regional bodies mentioned
have money to do such work but we can start and they will join us.

I'm volunteer to help start the work.
Best regards,
Victor.
> Hello All,
>
> Good to engage Regional bodies and all to do the data collection and
> dissemination work with certain scope. But I'm asking myself what
> (resource) does it take for this group to setup a small DB and wiki to
> start collecting just the data as suggested by Nenna to start with? Can
> this community join effort in start building a simple repository like that
> for its own usage? How much $$ do we really need? Just wondering 

>
> - a.
> On 2013-05-28, at 16:51 PM, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm> wrote:
>
>> Hello Colleagues,
>>
>> Personally I think we should start using the regional bodies, like
>> ECOWAS, the East African Commission etc, for such kind of documentation
>> that is really required, all these regional outfits should be able to
>> have a focal  policy unit focusing ICT and their regional ICT ecosystem
>> to do this, then a body like NEPAD can be able to gather such
>> information and validate it for all.
>>
>> I know their is a long way to go but we can start somewhere, but its the
>> way forward I think
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Poncelet
>>
>>
>> On 28 May 2013 11:36, Nnenna Nwakanma <nnenna75 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> +1.
>>
>> The research and strenous  "academic"  work, though, does not seem to be
>> in line with what those organisations "especially in Africa" do.
>> I have read 2-3 pagers but I may be wrong.
>>
>> On another note, ITU is more of a member-country kind of engagement
>> still.  Which basically gives little or no influence to these other
>> "sector members"
>>
>> But whichever way, anybody can document and disseminate such
>> documentation. We MUST begin somewhere..
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Nnenna
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Dandjinou Pierre
>> <pdandjinou at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mawaki,
>>
>> You said it all ! collecting the information and documenting those
>> relevant events as the ones Nnenna alludes to should be the focus. But
>> this calls for resources (human and financial resources). The way some
>> parts of the world do this is through regional organizations such as the
>> European commission who commissioned (!!) appropriate studies and white
>> papers.
>>
>> Our challenge here is how to get the Africa Union commission and other
>> RECs interested.
>>
>>  Pierre
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> There is a lot to be done in Africa. So one might think it is even more
>> crucial here to bring in all segments of the society which can help
>> improve our understanding and practice. I totally agree that academia
>> should be invited in what we do at all levels. It doesn't matter how
>> much you slice this, you can't avoid education, training, research
>> without a serious loss. As recently as last year I was doing a survey in
>> an African country and one of my respondents working in a public
>> research agency told me once she asked to consult a document (which was
>> not a government classified document but has to do with some development
>> issues in one sector of activity) at another government agency, then
>> after asking what exactly she was looking for her colleague opened the
>> corresponding pages for her to make note of, while concealing the
>> non-related contents. That's the mindset we're up against. In many
>> places, it is the very notion of collecting information and making it
>> easy to retrieve later on which is lacking. Believe it or not, in some
>> countries ICT-related policy documents are said to exist but cannot be
>> easily found by the public. For the medium and long-term there is a need
>> to educate and train information specialists, librarians, people who are
>> prepared to identify relevant data gathering opportunities and sources
>> and people who are prepared to systematically gather and curate
>> information, index it and make it easy to find and retrieve at any point
>> in the future. This can only help all researchers, academic or
>> practitioners, to do their job better as well as decision-makers, for
>> that matter.
>>
>> In any case, and particularly for the short term, the best we can do is
>> to gather raw data whenever possible, I agree with Nnenna on that
>> (Reports are just a means to build reference repositories for such data
>> and there may be other ways). The most important (and urgent) is to make
>> sure the data (as per the data points she just indicated) is available
>> somewhere for the public to access. Otherwise, how is one to debate
>> cogently about the geopolitics of the Internet in Africa without knowing
>> which African countries were there during relevant proceedings, which
>> ones contributed language, what their rationale was, what the different
>> positions among African countries are and which ones took which
>> positions and why, etc. A handful of people may be able to find out with
>> a reasonable time investment but most people, who might use that
>> information for useful things that we cannot even predict, won't be able
>> to find it. Not to mention that the more aware the public, the greater
>> the benefits of the debate.
>>
>> So yes, we need to demonstrate more awareness for the necessity to
>> collect information and systematically document what we do and relevant
>> events, to associate academia and other researchers and work with them
>> in order to facilitate data collection and information retrieval for
>> research and policy analysis as well as for decision-making,
>> policy-making and public information.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Mawaki
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Nnenna Nwakanma <nnenna75 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> SM, all
>>  I am talking about an Africa report directly in relation to the:
>> WCIT - World Conference on Information Technology
>> WTPF - World Telecommunications and ICT Policy Forum
>> WSIS+10 - World Summit of Information SOciety + 10 meetings
>>
>> It is not about "what worked in a country" but rather the sum total of:
>> Which African countries contribted content
>> In which areas/domains were African countries working/interested in
>> Which Countries had delegations
>> What commissions/committees of the policy rounds did they chair/work on
>> What Ministers were present? What panels did they feature on? What
>> content did they contribute?
>> What engagements, what plans, what future..
>>
>> All of that in the framework of global Internet/ICT Policy
>> Best
>>
>>
>>
>> Nnenna
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:28 AM, SM <sm at resistor.net> wrote:
>> Hi Nnenna,
>> At 00:04 28-05-2013, Nnenna Nwakanma wrote:
>> I honestly do believe that if we have an "Africa report" after each of
>> these meetings, such will come in handy when we are planning for the
>> future.
>>
>> Replicating what worked in Country X does not work well.  The quality of
>> reports are in my opinion relatively low.  That might be due to research
>> constraints.  The reader would expect an Africa report to include as
>> many countries as possible.  Reports generally cover a few countries as
>> case studies and are extrapolated from there.
>>
>> There isn't a breath of expertise as input; either the expertise is not
>> there, or it is untapped, or there is lack of interest.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -sm
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