[AfrICANN-discuss] Management of African ccTLDs: Panne du .td?

Wed Sep 19 17:29:56 SAST 2012

Paulos,

This African ccTLD study (2008) is very good! Can this be updated annually?

Nii

On Sep 18, 2012, at 20:15, "Dr Paulos Nyirenda" <paulos at sdnp.org.mw> wrote:

> 
> I also recall that ICANN indicated that there was an emergency service for IANA
> functions, may be this is one such situation where this could have kicked in. I also
> recall that ICANN did put out an emergency 24x7 telephone number for things like this.
> 
> Mike, we carried out a study under AFTLD to assess status of African ccTLDs and you can
> see the presentation at:
> http://www.aftld.org/SA2008/docs/presentations/Day1/ccTLDs-in-Africa-Dr-P-Nyirenda.mw-ccTLD-pub.pdf.
> 
> On slide 19 you will see that there are at least 5 African ccTLDs with only 2
> nameservers and at least one of those, .gw, had all nameservers on its own network. I
> hope this precarious situation has improved since that study was done in 2008.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paulos
> ==============================
> Dr Paulos Nyirenda
> Malawi .mw ccTLD
> Malawi SDNP Coodinator
> 
> On 18 Sep 2012 at 17:57, Mark Elkins wrote:
> 
>> I thought that official technical contacts could more or less update the
>> IANA database in real-time (which is the impression I got from a Kim
>> Davies presentation a few years ago). If AfriNIC was running a secondary
>> on their AnyCast system - this should have stopped the zone disappearing
>> - but I see even now just the two nameservers (bow.rain.fr. and
>> bow.intnet.td.)
>> 
>> Is any other African country in a similarly precarious state? Are you
>> aware that AfriNIC can host a Secondary Anycast nameserver instance for
>> you?
>> 
>> On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 15:16 +0100, Adamou Nacer wrote:
>>> Hi Dr Paulos,
>>> I have spend the whole morning discussing about this issue with the 
>>> telecommunication regulator's representatives and the manager of the 
>>> primary nameservers at sotel (national telco).
>>> So what happens is simple.
>>> - Sotel was in contract with France Telecom which provided the IP 
>>> addresses they were using for the .td primary servers.
>>> - That contract was suddenly stopped and then, France Telecom got back 
>>> its addresses.
>>> - In the meantime, the guys managing the .td nameservers installed new 
>>> nameservers (with Sotel's owned IP addresses from AfriNIC) and were 
>>> supported by AfriNIC and Afnic which host secondary servers.The IANA's 
>>> database update process was started but is not completed till now. So 
>>> the sudden withdrawal of France Telecom's IP addresses combined with the 
>>> ongoing database update operation resulted in this situation.
>>> As a summary, the main reason of this is lack of planning.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Le 18/09/2012 11:23, Dr Paulos Nyirenda a écrit :
>>>> We got a report of this issue at .td at the AFTLD Annual Meeting in Livingstone,
>> Zambia
>>>> in July 2012 and many of us have attempted to get in touch with .td without much
>> success.
>>>> 
>>>> What may also be noted is that it seems that there have been not complaints or
>> reports
>>>> from within Chad. It hence seems necessary to ask whether this is a problem for
>> the
>>>> Internet community within Chad. Are there "significantly interested parties" in
>> this
>>>> issue within Chad?
>>>> 
>>>> We have also tried to contact those that seem to have been running the secondary
>> DNS
>>>> services, not much luck there either - no one replies to the addresses in the SOA,
>> even
>>>> from servers on .fr - so why were they chosen to run secondary DNS services?
>>>> 
>>>> The FOIWG of the ccNSO is discussing what may be interpretted as "substantial
>>>> misbehaviour" of a ccTLD manager and the conditions that must exist for them to be
>>>> interpretted as adequate for IANA intervention as stipulated in RFC1591. Are we
>> there yet
>>>> for this case?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Paulos
>>>> ======================
>>>> Dr Paulos B Nyirenda
>>>> NIC.MW & .mw ccTLD
>>>> http://www.registrar.mw
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 18 Sep 2012 at 9:21, Adamou Nacer wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Nigel,
>>>>> Le 17/09/2012 17:03, Nigel Roberts a écrit :
>>>>>> I don't want to make this sound like a commercial (and there are
>>>>>> others - also inside Africa - who no doubt can offer to assist as
>>>>>> well) but just to mention we may be able to help any African ccTLDs
>>>>>> who maybe need additional resources -- from a simple secondary
>>>>>> nameserver right through to a complete backend registry.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Happy to be contacted at any time. Off list, probably, best.
>>>>> In fact the problem is not only technical. I think they have support
>>>>> from afnic. But you see, that isn't enough. I called a friend of mine
>>>>> close to that file and he promised to introduce me to SOTEL and OTRT. I
>>>>> will come back with more information on that issue as soon as possible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, is this mailing list the right place to get assistance on this
>>>>> kind of issue?
>>>>> Regards
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