[AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68, Issue 90

Nii Narku Quaynor quaynor at ghana.com
Tue Oct 23 22:23:47 SAST 2012 

Perhaps there are ways effort could be put on this however, just in case, Boko Haram is also a subscriber to this open list you may want to move this discussion into the ccCERT, AfricaCERT, LEA, AfGWG or other related community discussion lists or private lists

Good luck

(Nii with LEA hat on)

On Oct 23, 2012, at 20:10, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Kayode,
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Kayode Yussuf <kayusyussuf at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Emmanuel & All
> 
> Emmanuel just asked a question I have been asking for some months, boko haram terrorists use the internet very well and I wonder, why can't we trace the IP address and mac address of the computer 
>  
> There are many reasons why such traces could be a waste of time....especially in an environment such as Nigeria and in the Era where Nating is still very much around,where no proper citizen documentation exists, and ofcouse where its quite easy to hide one's identity on the internet using cheap and readily available technologies. 
> 
> The city wide surveillance camera can also be used to trace suicide bombers, if we go a week back into the life of the sucide bomber, we can know who he met, those he spoke to on phone etc, if these people can be interrogated & curtailed, we would have gone a long way in fighting boko haram. 
> 
> Okay Kayode there are some facts we both know about Boko Haram and the reason why its lingering on up till now...anyway i don't think those level of politics should be discussed on this forum. 
> 
> I wonder why these have not been done.
> 
> Let me say this; some things are not done not because there is no means to do it, but just because we don't want it done! 
> 
> Cheers!
> Kayode Yussuf 
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> From: Emmanuel Ogbodo <ogbodoeu at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:51:52 +0100
> To: <kayusyussuf at yahoo.com>; <africann at afrinic.net>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68, Issue 90
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> How can we use CYBERSECURITY (ICT) to prevent Boko Haram in Nigeria?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Kayode Yussuf <kayusyussuf at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I join my voice to say there is a lot to attack in Africa. As long as you digitize information and that information has any sort of value, then you have to protect it.
> 
> Kayode Yussuf
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> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:38:34 +0000
> From: Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards
>         cyber war
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> Thanks for educating many on this. In deed Africa has a lot to protect from any more attacks...its wealth is  what makes it a target. 
> Need I say more?
> Thanks...
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> >From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
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> Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm> wrote:
> 
> Hello Colleagues,
> 
> I think it will be very naive to think there is nothing to attack in Africa with the numerous e governmental portals coming up and also as a lot of governmental data centre are been developed, these are systems that can be attacked. 
> 
> The fact remains their is still a scramble  for resources in our continent, the recent crisis between South Sudan and Sudan says a lot.  The role of China as an emerging force technologically is their for all to see, 'How the ICANN community engages China come the 46th ICANN Meeting next year will be  interesting as China with Heuwei is playing a key role within Africa network communication Infrastructure  today. 
> 
> Am not been paranoid but but Africa can be prone to attack it can be economic sabotage or multi nationals playing at each other etc, the billions Angola are going to pump on the electricity sector means technically  a lot of this new grid  will managed through computer networks, If Dos Santos achieves his aim that grid he plans to set up for all Angolans to have electricity will rely a lot on Computer systems infrastructure that need to be rigid and secured, but we can be prone, the sooner we realise our systems need better protection our cyber laws and initiatives need to conform with International standards like the initiatives taken by Mauritius the better for us all.
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> My 0.00001% contribution to this interesting topic.
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> Peace
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> Poncelet
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> On 22 October 2012 18:33, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
> What is there to attack in Africa?
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> el
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> On 2012-10-22 17:49 , Claude Essomba wrote:
> > Thanks Pierre ,
> >
> > I really welcome this posted article. Â The question that I am
> > asking regarding Africa is as follow : Are we ready to face such
> > attacks ? Â Maybe we should like the US , Europe and other to
> > Simulate such attacks at the gov level to understand what could be
> > the impact.
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> > Regards
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> > *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*
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> And that infrastructure would be, what?
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> el
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> On 2012-10-22 23:18 , Claude Essomba wrote:
> > Dear Dr Eberhard W Lisse ,
> >
> > Thanks for your reaction.  The minimum for most of the countries
> > to be protected is what we call critical infrastructure.  A
> > simulation could include the impact when the critical
> > infrastructure is affected as it was the case for the Estonia
> > again Russia.
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> > Regards
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> Oops.. This is now going into comparative inequalities ...since infrastructure is a  wide and varied quantity. I think that We need to separate Infrastructure by categories before the debate moves on.... Please.
> My opinion is that Africa has enjoyed what needs to be promoted and protected and should be proud of. It depends on what one means by Infrastructure...
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> >From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
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> Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA> wrote:
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> And that infrastructure would be, what?
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> el
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> On 2012-10-22 23:18 , Claude Essomba wrote:
> > Dear Dr Eberhard W Lisse ,
> >Â 
> > Thanks for your reaction.  The minimum for most of the countries
> > to be protected is what we call critical infrastructure.  A
> > simulation could include the impact when the critical
> > infrastructure is affected as it was the case for the Estonia
> > again Russia.
> >Â 
> > Regards
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> > *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*
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> Btw Africa has other values to protect beyond the developing minimal digital infrastructure which is now becoming important and about 99% did without until 1980s
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> Keep on discussing please constructively.
> Yassin
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> >From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
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> Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA> wrote:
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> And that infrastructure would be, what?
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> el
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> On 2012-10-22 23:18 , Claude Essomba wrote:
> > Dear Dr Eberhard W Lisse ,
> >Â 
> > Thanks for your reaction.  The minimum for most of the countries
> > to be protected is what we call critical infrastructure.  A
> > simulation could include the impact when the critical
> > infrastructure is affected as it was the case for the Estonia
> > again Russia.
> >Â 
> > Regards
> >Â 
> > *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*
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