[AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68, Issue 90

Dr Eberhard W Lisse el at lisse.NA
Tue Oct 23 18:12:29 SAST 2012 

No, it doesn't, of course and as ususal.

Infrastructure is not information.

Business practices are not cybersecurity/cyberwar.

el

On 2012-10-23 10:31 , Y Mshana2003 wrote:
> Thank you for your Answer.
> This may helped to educate Us:-)
> 
> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
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> Kayode Yussuf <kayusyussuf at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I join my voice to say there is a lot to attack in Africa. As long as
> you digitize information and that information has any sort of value,
> then you have to protect it.
> 
> Kayode Yussuf
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>    1. Re: The world is moving gradually towards cyber war (Y Mshana2003)
>    2. Re: The world is moving gradually towards cyber war
>       (Dr Eberhard W Lisse)
>    3. Re: The world is moving gradually towards cyber war (Y Mshana2003)
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> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:38:34 +0000
> From: Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards
> cyber war
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> Thanks for educating many on this. In deed Africa has a lot to protect
> from any more attacks...its wealth is  what makes it a target. 
> Need I say more?
> Thanks...
> 
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>>From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
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> Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm> wrote:
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> Hello Colleagues,
> 
> I think it will be very naive to think there is nothing to attack in
> Africa with the numerous e governmental portals coming up and also as a
> lot of governmental data centre are been developed, these are systems
> that can be attacked. 
> 
> The fact remains their is still a scramble  for resources in our
> continent, the recent crisis between South Sudan and Sudan says a lot. 
> The role of China as an emerging force technologically is their for all
> to see, 'How the ICANN community engages China come the 46th ICANN
> Meeting next year will be  interesting as China with Heuwei is playing
> a key role within Africa network communication Infrastructure  today. 
> 
> Am not been paranoid but but Africa can be prone to attack it can be
> economic sabotage or multi nationals playing at each other etc, the
> billions Angola are going to pump on the electricity sector means
> technically  a lot of this new grid  will managed through computer
> networks, If Dos Santos achieves his aim that grid he plans to set up
> for all Angolans to have electricity will rely a lot on Computer systems
> infrastructure that need to be rigid and secured, but we can be prone,
> the sooner we realise our systems need better protection our cyber laws
> and initiatives need to conform with International standards like the
> initiatives taken by Mauritius the better for us all.
> 
> My 0.00001% contribution to this interesting topic.
> 
> Peace
> 
> Poncelet
> '
> Â 
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> On 22 October 2012 18:33, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
> What is there to attack in Africa?
> 
> el
> 
> On 2012-10-22 17:49 , Claude Essomba wrote:
>> Thanks Pierre ,
>>
>> I really welcome this posted article. Â The question that I am
>> asking regarding Africa is as follow : Are we ready to face such
>> attacks ? Â Maybe we should like the US , Europe and other to
>> Simulate such attacks at the gov level to understand what could be
>> the impact.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*
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> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 01:07:34 +0200
> From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards
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> And that infrastructure would be, what?
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> el
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> On 2012-10-22 23:18 , Claude Essomba wrote:
>> Dear Dr Eberhard W Lisse ,
>> 
>> Thanks for your reaction.  The minimum for most of the countries
>> to be protected is what we call critical infrastructure.  A
>> simulation could include the impact when the critical
>> infrastructure is affected as it was the case for the Estonia
>> again Russia.
>> 
>> Regards
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>> *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*
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> From: Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com>
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> Oops.. This is now going into comparative inequalities ...since
> infrastructure is a  wide and varied quantity. I think that We need to
> separate Infrastructure by categories before the debate moves on.... Please.
> My opinion is that Africa has enjoyed what needs to be promoted and
> protected and should be proud of. It depends on what one means by
> Infrastructure...
> 
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>>From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
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> Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA> wrote:
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> And that infrastructure would be, what?
> 
> el
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> On 2012-10-22 23:18 , Claude Essomba wrote:
>> Dear Dr Eberhard W Lisse ,
>>Â 
>> Thanks for your reaction.  The minimum for most of the countries
>> to be protected is what we call critical infrastructure.  A
>> simulation could include the impact when the critical
>> infrastructure is affected as it was the case for the Estonia
>> again Russia.
>>Â 
>> Regards
>>Â 
>> *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*
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> From: Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards
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> Btw Africa has other values to protect beyond the developing minimal
> digital infrastructure which is now becoming important and about 99% did
> without until 1980s
> 
> Keep on discussing please constructively.
> Yassin
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>>From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
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> Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA> wrote:
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> And that infrastructure would be, what?
> 
> el
> 
> On 2012-10-22 23:18 , Claude Essomba wrote:
>> Dear Dr Eberhard W Lisse ,
>>Â 
>> Thanks for your reaction.  The minimum for most of the countries
>> to be protected is what we call critical infrastructure.  A
>> simulation could include the impact when the critical
>> infrastructure is affected as it was the case for the Estonia
>> again Russia.
>>Â 
>> Regards
>>Â 
>> *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*
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