[AfrICANN-discuss] Re: Help with .africa history
Dr Yassin Mshana
ymshana2003 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 29 22:36:28 SAST 2012
Hi
Many thanks for this. It is good to see that now we are looking into
Operations Schedule of this contested gTLD.
- Africa is Great!!
Let us keep on moving...
Kind regards
Yassin
On 29 July 2012 18:43, Gideon <gideonrop at gmail.com> wrote:
> Members,
>
> We have seen from the published parts of Uniforum's application that they
> intend to charge US$18.00 per domain name. This is quite high considering
> that DCA intends to charge US$10.00 per standard domain name. ICANN
> Registry fees are meant to be paid by every registry operator so this
> applies to everybody. Uniforum's proposed charges are therefore very
> exorbitant. Perhaps, they intend to use most of the money to pay SEDARI,
> ARI Registry services, so undoubtedly, a lot of the money will be flowing
> outside Africa to Australia, not forgetting that the directors of DNS (Pty)
> Ltd. will also be taking a lot for themselves.
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:28:00 +0200
>> From: Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history
>> To: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>, africann at afrinic.net
>> Message-ID: <1343561280.8173.76.camel at mjelap.posix.co.za>
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>> On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 10:55 +0100, Pierre Lotis NANKEP wrote:
>> > Dear community,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Without any doubt : All this (virtual) battle is about money...
>> Running a gTLD definitely has a money component - but its not the only
>> one.
>> UniForum already has a good track record with spending surplus funds on
>> outreach, an example being two schools a month are given a Computer Lab.
>> UniForum has stated its registry system fee would be about 1$ per domain
>> - the rest of the fee is for outreach purposes (after paying back
>> UniForum's loan for the application). So almost all of the money stays
>> in Africa. UniForum has been operating "CO.ZA" for the past 16 years and
>> is trusted by the local community.
>>
>> DCA has indicated they will use a UK company to run the registry system
>> - money will leave Africa. I believe they have "investors" so money will
>> continue to flow to these people many years from now.
>>
>> > If the interest of the African community was the priority, why DCA or
>> > UNIFORUM (AfricaInOneSpace or African Union) did not applied also
>> > for :
>>
>> Fair comment - perhaps we are all hoping that ICANN will be more
>> generous in the second round of gTLD applications. ICANN wanted the same
>> fee per "string".
>>
>> > With respect to ICANN and his guidebook that some consider to be the
>> > Bible or the Koran, on the pretext that it was realized by the
>> > contribution of the entire global Internet community, I think this
>> > document could be improved : the registration for a new geoTLD should
>> > automatically caused the registration in other codified languages in
>> > this geographical area.
>>
>> Well - its their business so we should observe their rules. I totally
>> agree about the languages though. ICANN does listen to what the Industry
>> says though. Make your voice heard - join the "At Large" community.
>>
>> > To return to the issue of dotAfrica, the Steering Committee of DCA or
>> > AfricaInOneSpace is not representative enough. The multi-stakeholder
>> > model is not balanced. All Africa sub-regions should be represented in
>> > the Steering Committees. All this leads us to ask questions about the
>> > final aim.
>>
>> Have you checked? "http://africainonespace.org" lists seven out of of
>> the twelve SteerCom members. North, South, East and West are
>> represented. There is also some gender balance and people are from
>> different parts of the Internet industry. A bigger Steercom would
>> probably be more inefficient.
>>
>> > To prove to the African community their good intention, DCA or
>> > AfricaInOneSpace websites must be available in all major languages
>> > used in Africa (English, Arabic, French, Portuguese, Spanish, etc.).
>>
>> http://africainonespace.org is already available in English, French and
>> Portuguese. Arabic is currently in progress. There is only one African
>> country who's official language is Spanish and I'm sure that'll happen
>> one day too.
>>
>> --
>> . . ___. .__ Posix Systems - (South) Africa
>> /| /| / /__ mje at posix.co.za - Mark J Elkins, Cisco CCIE
>> / |/ |ARK \_/ /__ LKINS Tel: +27 12 807 0590 Cell: +27 82 601 0496
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:36:17 +0200
>> From: Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za>
>> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa Strategic
>> plan
>> To: africann at afrinic.net
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>> On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 09:05 +0000, Fatimata Seye Sylla wrote:
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> >
>> > As one of the seniors on this African list and with due respect to all
>> > of you, may I humbly ask each of you to please take it easy for the
>> > better of Africa? It is a good thing to discuss issues for better
>> > understanding. Brothers and sisters always argue but should never
>> > consider themselves as enemies. should they?
>> >
>> >
>> > We are all brothers and sisters, working together for Africa. We are
>> > in a good move now that we have understood our mistakes. We have a
>> > deadline to meet, so please let's try to be more constructive and
>> > avoid to harm each other on this list. We have work to do, let's be
>> > more constructive and let's move forward.for this strategy draft.
>> > Everyone should provide inputs from now on.
>>
>> I totally agree with you.
>>
>> We all want a single, united "Africa" domain name (just perhaps one day
>> also available in different languages)
>>
>>
>> --
>> . . ___. .__ Posix Systems - (South) Africa
>> /| /| / /__ mje at posix.co.za - Mark J Elkins, Cisco CCIE
>> / |/ |ARK \_/ /__ LKINS Tel: +27 12 807 0590 Cell: +27 82 601 0496
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>> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:53:17 +0200
>> From: Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history
>> To: africann at afrinic.net
>> Message-ID: <1343566397.8173.105.camel at mjelap.posix.co.za>
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>> On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 13:28 +0200, Mark Elkins wrote:
>>
>> > DCA has indicated they will use a UK company to run the registry system
>> > - money will leave Africa. I believe they have "investors" so money will
>> > continue to flow to these people many years from now.
>>
>> I'm sorry, I shouldn't be guessing about DCA.
>>
>> UniForums costs would be higher too - especially if including the cost
>> of another ICANN round for a number of strings for "africa" variations
>> - etc. There are also yearly fees for ICANN - etc.
>>
>> --
>> . . ___. .__ Posix Systems - (South) Africa
>> /| /| / /__ mje at posix.co.za - Mark J Elkins, Cisco CCIE
>> / |/ |ARK \_/ /__ LKINS Tel: +27 12 807 0590 Cell: +27 82 601 0496
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