[AfrICANN-discuss] Re: Help with .africa history

Sun Jul 29 20:43:00 SAST 2012

Members,

We have seen from the published parts of Uniforum's application that they
intend to charge US$18.00 per domain name. This is quite high considering
that DCA intends to charge US$10.00 per standard domain name. ICANN
Registry fees are meant to be paid by every registry operator so this
applies to everybody. Uniforum's proposed charges are therefore very
exorbitant. Perhaps, they intend to use most of the money to pay SEDARI,
ARI Registry services, so undoubtedly, a lot of the money will be flowing
outside Africa to Australia, not forgetting that the directors of DNS (Pty)
Ltd. will also be taking a lot for themselves.

Thank you.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 3:56 PM, <africann-request at afrinic.net> wrote:

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> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:28:00 +0200
> From: Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history
> To: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>, africann at afrinic.net
> Message-ID: <1343561280.8173.76.camel at mjelap.posix.co.za>
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> On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 10:55 +0100, Pierre Lotis NANKEP wrote:
> > Dear community,
> >
> >
> >
> > Without any doubt : All this (virtual) battle is about money...
> Running a gTLD definitely has a money component - but its not the only
> one.
> UniForum already has a good track record with spending surplus funds on
> outreach, an example being two schools a month are given a Computer Lab.
> UniForum has stated its registry system fee would be about 1$ per domain
> - the rest of the fee is for outreach purposes (after paying back
> UniForum's loan for the application). So almost all of the money stays
> in Africa. UniForum has been operating "CO.ZA" for the past 16 years and
> is trusted by the local community.
>
> DCA has indicated they will use a UK company to run the registry system
> - money will leave Africa. I believe they have "investors" so money will
> continue to flow to these people many years from now.
>
> > If the interest of the African community was the priority, why DCA or
> > UNIFORUM (AfricaInOneSpace or African Union) did not applied also
> > for :
>
> Fair comment - perhaps we are all hoping that ICANN will be more
> generous in the second round of gTLD applications. ICANN wanted the same
> fee per "string".
>
> > With respect to ICANN and his guidebook that some consider to be the
> > Bible or the Koran, on the pretext that it was realized by the
> > contribution of the entire global Internet community, I think this
> > document could be improved : the registration for a new geoTLD should
> > automatically caused the registration in other codified languages in
> > this geographical area.
>
> Well - its their business so we should observe their rules. I totally
> agree about the languages though. ICANN does listen to what the Industry
> says though. Make your voice heard - join the "At Large" community.
>
> > To return to the issue of dotAfrica, the Steering Committee of DCA or
> > AfricaInOneSpace is not representative enough. The multi-stakeholder
> > model is not balanced. All Africa sub-regions should be represented in
> > the Steering Committees. All this leads us to ask questions about the
> > final aim.
>
> Have you checked? "http://africainonespace.org" lists seven out of of
> the twelve SteerCom members. North, South, East and West are
> represented. There is also some gender balance and people are from
> different parts of the Internet industry. A bigger Steercom would
> probably be more inefficient.
>
> > To prove to the African community their good intention,  DCA or
> > AfricaInOneSpace websites must be available in all major languages
> > used in Africa (English, Arabic, French, Portuguese, Spanish, etc.).
>
> http://africainonespace.org is already available in English, French and
> Portuguese. Arabic is currently in progress. There is only one African
> country who's official language is Spanish and I'm sure that'll happen
> one day too.
>
> --
>   .  .     ___. .__      Posix Systems - (South) Africa
>  /| /|       / /__       mje at posix.co.za  -  Mark J Elkins, Cisco CCIE
> / |/ |ARK \_/ /__ LKINS  Tel: +27 12 807 0590  Cell: +27 82 601 0496
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> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:36:17 +0200
> From: Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa Strategic
>         plan
> To: africann at afrinic.net
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> On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 09:05 +0000, Fatimata Seye Sylla wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> >
> > As one of the seniors on this African list and with due respect to all
> > of you, may I humbly ask each of you to please take it easy for the
> > better of Africa?  It is a good thing to discuss issues for better
> > understanding.  Brothers and sisters always argue but should never
> > consider themselves as enemies. should they?
> >
> >
> > We are all brothers and sisters, working together for Africa. We are
> > in a good move now that we  have understood our mistakes.  We have a
> > deadline to meet, so please let's try to be more constructive and
> > avoid to harm each other on this list.  We have work to do, let's be
> > more constructive and let's move forward.for this strategy draft.
> >  Everyone should provide inputs from now on.
>
> I totally agree with you.
>
> We all want a single, united "Africa" domain name (just perhaps one day
> also available in different languages)
>
>
> --
>   .  .     ___. .__      Posix Systems - (South) Africa
>  /| /|       / /__       mje at posix.co.za  -  Mark J Elkins, Cisco CCIE
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> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:53:17 +0200
> From: Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history
> To: africann at afrinic.net
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> On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 13:28 +0200, Mark Elkins wrote:
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> > DCA has indicated they will use a UK company to run the registry system
> > - money will leave Africa. I believe they have "investors" so money will
> > continue to flow to these people many years from now.
>
> I'm sorry, I shouldn't be guessing about DCA.
>
> UniForums costs would be higher too - especially if including the cost
> of another ICANN round for a number of strings for "africa" variations
> - etc. There are also yearly fees for ICANN - etc.
>
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