[AfrICANN-discuss] honesty vs Ms Bekele lying and using a fake on line identity

Dr Eberhard W Lisse el at lisse.na
Thu Dec 6 09:28:18 SAST 2012

I strongly believe, that the delete button exists for a reason. You don't like what I post,
read it, or not, delete it or not, reply to it or not.

An it should be self evident that as Ms Bekele has admitted to lying the individual calling her a lier is not doing "name calling" whatever that is supposed to mean, but telling the truth.

Remember an affirmative defense against libel and slander is the truth.


Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini

On Dec 6, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Adamou Nacer <adamou.nacer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> like Pierre, I sometimes felt the need to have a kind of moderation on this list. But in fact, that is not a good idea because the purpose of this list is (afaik) to encourage discussions within the african internet community on any issue of concern.
> But what I would agree with is an AfriNIC code of conduct that each person on any of the afriNIC's mailing list must explicitly or implicitly accept.
> Yes, I think Dr Lisse is right pointing out the fact that the mailing list is not the problem but the behaviour of individuals within that mailing list.
> It is just a contribution.
> Regards
> Le 06/12/2012 07:15, Dr Eberhard W Lisse a écrit :
>> Hash: SHA1
>> Besides agreeing with me that Ms Bekele has been lying (to this
>> list) and used a false on line identity (which may attract US
>> Federal charges) you just proved that you do not understand what
>> Internet Governance means, or perhaps that you do but don't want to
>> have it.
>> Never mind that it is not the mailing list "technique" that is at
>> fault, but the conduct of the individual concerned.
>> In any case in practice it would be extremely difficult to implement
>> because you need to get each and every member not only to use PGP
>> but also to build PGP credentials, attending PGP events and the
>> like.
>> But then you are an IT engineer, so you would have thought this
>> through.  Well actually, the level of expertise displayed on this
>> list is shocking as usual.
>> My emails from the Macs are signed with SSL as a matter of course,
>> but I haven't had time yet to load the certificate onto the iPhone 5
>> and iPad mini.  I also don't know how to do this in Blackberry, nor
>> do I care.  But just for the fun of it this one is also signed with
>> my PGP key.
>> You could easily sign your emails with your key C6512919...
>> el
>> On 2012-12-06 07:32 , Pierre Lotis NANKEP wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> All the discussion about mail header, who is who, who did what, ...
>>> proved that the mailing list technique is not enough to answer all
>>> these questions.
>>> Hence, it is time to upgrade to mailing list version 2.0
>>> The mailing list version 2.0 = Face-list (subscription with photo) 
>>> + Security embedded (through digital signature provide with 
>>> standard as OpenPGP).
>>> Thus we will need a special client to read / post in the mailing 
>>> list.  This approach (technical regulation) will certainly improve 
>>> the Internet Governance
>>> -- Pierre Lotis NANKEP
>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin)
>> Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org
>> Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/
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>> Y9yOMGLORCtMaBj3P40kPjmusaUdI3ZA0jlJqi3400ZoG11Pal6Gyhw3aDVujxh1
>> f1wPFXjHautmbMYvwxZq4Cm6wdfboS1ENrH4nNBiqAzm/BcwX9JEIOstBRZj0mFs
>> c0a2gsOhVw0=
>> =hbK0
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