[AfrICANN-discuss] .africa who is who?
Nigel Roberts
nigel at channelisles.net
Sun Dec 2 23:29:36 SAST 2012
As an outsider (albeit one with interests in tthe African internet/DNS
space) I must confess to being puzzled still.
If, for the sake of argument, I make the (increasingly unlikely)
assumption that Ms Ma, and Mrs Beleke are NOT one
and the same (despite the apparent evidence to the contrary), then
perhaps "Lerato" could answer me a question.
Exactly what position do you hold in the American CBS (broadcasting?)
company that we found earlier seems to somehow behind DCA?
And can you introduce me to Jerry Springer?
On 02/12/2012 20:49, Lerato wrote:
> Vika
> Please read well before making comments- "Unproudly South African"
> was a commentary by one of your own customers not me.
> http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/224513-.co.za-Uniforum-down
>
> Keep your intrigue going, according to Doc, Sophia is also Kenyan and
> some many other countries..
>
> --Lerato Ma
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Vika Mpisane <vika at zadna.org.za>
> *To:* africann at afrinic.net
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 2, 2012 12:36 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] .africa who is who?
>
> Well, Brian, Eberhard has regularly pointed out that this "Lerato
> Ma" is in fact Sophia Bekele -- much to the vehement denial of
> this "Lerato Ma". I like the fact that this "Lerato Ma" claims to
> be "unproudly South African". What I like most from the info you
> provided below is the last 2 lines that read:
>
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>
> And it seemed Eberhard was wrong when he constantly pointed out
> this "Lerato Ma" (who's very unproudly South African - if she ever
> were South African in the first place) is, in fact, Sophia Bekele.
> Now reading the header info below and finding the name "Sophia
> Bekele" leaves me with intrigue: why is Sophia Bekele (assuming
> the header info is not lying) hiding behind pseudonyms? Let alone
> the fake "South Africanness"?
>
> Regards,
>
> *Vika Mpisane* | Tel: +27 11 314 0077
>
>
> From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com
> <mailto:blongwe at gmail.com>>
> Reply-To: <africann at afrinic.net <mailto:africann at afrinic.net>>
> Date: Sunday 02 December 2012 9:43 PM
> To: <africann at afrinic.net <mailto:africann at afrinic.net>>
> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] .africa who is who?
>
> It is interesting to note that all these messages purporting to be
> from someone called "Lerato Ma" have some very revealing
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> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Nii Narku Quaynor
> <quaynor at ghana.com <mailto:quaynor at ghana.com>> wrote:
>
> Great as the guidebook works fine.
>
> You shared a link on how well you are winning and you got
> feedback which showed an unfavorable score card for DCA
>
> Will DCA now stop disturbing the list about its application
> since we agree on the guidebook process
>
> On Dec 2, 2012, at 17:03, Lerato <lerato.ma at yahoo.com
> <mailto:lerato.ma at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>> I am sure DCA can defend itself from any of the below
>> rummers, insinuations, what you say counts or does not, which
>> is already in the public domain. But if you think that DCA
>> has all this staked up against it, and your bid is stronger,
>> why ask DCA to withdraw, just let the system run its course
>> right?
>>
>> -- Lerato Ma.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com
>> <mailto:quaynor at ghana.com>>
>> *To:* Lerato <lerato.ma at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:lerato.ma at yahoo.com>>; "africann at afrinic.net
>> <mailto:africann at afrinic.net>" <africann at afrinic.net
>> <mailto:africann at afrinic.net>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 1, 2012 12:30 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] .africa the saga continues
>>
>> Well for the onlooker it seems you did not understand the
>> guidebook.
>>
>> Yet you think you are winning. So far,
>>
>> - you have had to do a string substitution
>> - you have received several objections
>> - have not shown the 60% countries supporting your
>> application
>> - AUC rejected endorsement of DCA
>> - UNECA is UN and not Africa thus does not count
>>
>> Frankly, indications are not looking good. Rumor has it
>> that some letters DCA wrote seeking endorsement claimed
>> you were ICANN board members?
>>
>> Some have even questioned the authenticity of the AUC
>> letter you claimed to have in the press
>>
>> Talking of ethics please get ready as all these will play
>> out publicly...
>>
>> If I were you I'll follow Badru's advise and eat humble pie
>>
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 19:31, Lerato <lerato.ma at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:lerato.ma at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> From your point of view, DCA always has a $185k
>>> misunderstanding of reading the guidebook, but keeps
>>> winning!
>>> http://www.itwebafrica.com/internet/334-africa/229830-the-185000-dotafrica-internet-domain-name-misunderstanding?
>>>
>>> --Lerato Ma
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com
>>> <mailto:quaynor at ghana.com>>
>>> *To:* Lerato <lerato.ma at yahoo.com
>>> <mailto:lerato.ma at yahoo.com>>; "africann at afrinic.net
>>> <mailto:africann at afrinic.net>" <africann at afrinic.net
>>> <mailto:africann at afrinic.net>>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 1, 2012 10:26 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] .africa the saga
>>> continues
>>>
>>> What am telling you is that you did not read the
>>> guidebook (400 pages too big for you) and therefore
>>> made grave mistakes and may have lost $185K :(
>>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 14:24, Lerato
>>> <lerato.ma at yahoo.com <mailto:lerato.ma at yahoo.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Doc,
>>>> what Nii is telling you is pollution and ethics are
>>>> outside the scope of the guidebook, the book once
>>>> refereed to in this list as the Bible of New gTLDs.
>>>> Perhaps if guidebook was really a Bible, meaning
>>>> DCA would not have "failed to get government support".
>>>>
>>>> --Lerato Ma
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com
>>>> <mailto:quaynor at ghana.com>>
>>>> *To:* "africann at afrinic.net
>>>> <mailto:africann at afrinic.net>"
>>>> <africann at afrinic.net
>>>> <mailto:africann at afrinic.net>>
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 1, 2012 6:05 AM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] .africa the
>>>> saga continues
>>>>
>>>> Please follow the applicant guidebook process...
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 11:19, Y Mshana2003
>>>> <ymshana2003 at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:ymshana2003 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello there...
>>>>> It seems that the discussion is becoming
>>>>> similar to what football fans do - arguing and
>>>>> castigating other teams. Unfortunately Africa
>>>>> is one team with players who are playing with
>>>>> the aim to each win a Goal for themselves.
>>>>> This .africa issue shows all of that...
>>>>> Can we be more professional and open please?
>>>>> DCA is not a personal undertaking nor do the
>>>>> ccTLD for .za.
>>>>> Let us wait for the outcome of the process at
>>>>> ICANN although ICANN process may have been
>>>>> polluted ??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA
>>>>> <mailto:el at lisse.NA>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Point is, they are not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Capable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of anything. Other than whining.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And, I stated at the AFRALO-Africann meeting
>>>>> in Prague that it
>>>>> doesn't matter whether there are only 17
>>>>> applications (and not 170
>>>>> or 1700) but that we need to make a success
>>>>> out of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Uniforum bid is indigenous, with their own
>>>>> software, which is
>>>>> tried and tested, run on their own
>>>>> infrastructure, which as tried
>>>>> and tested and thus has a cost advantage...
>>>>>
>>>>> And as you and I have no personal interest in
>>>>> the matter, I myself
>>>>> even think, the bid is as necessary as a
>>>>> goiter, it is of course
>>>>> incumbent upon the entertaining Ms
>>>>> Bekelelelele to accuse. Which
>>>>> she in her many incarnations does to everyone
>>>>> not agreeing with her.
>>>>> Especially whenveracity is difficult to
>>>>> realign to reality.
>>>>>
>>>>> el
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2012-12-01 10:23 , Nii Narku Quaynor wrote:
>>>>> > On Dec 1, 2012, at 6:24, Badru Ntege
>>>>> <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com
>>>>> <mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com> wrote: >
>>>>> >> If I were DCA I would humbly withdraw from
>>>>> this race and join
>>>>> >> hands with the rest of the continent to see
>>>>> how we can make the
>>>>> >> most of the .africa resource.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Is DCA capable of this?
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
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