[AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 65, Issue 67
Baudouin Schombe
baudouin.schombe at gmail.com
Fri Aug 3 11:07:53 SAST 2012
Hi all,
Let me return to the representation of Central Africa in the working group
on the African strategy to ICANN.
I think the meeting in Prague is already well advanced in the constitution of
the representatives in this working group. for Central Africa, Michel
Tchnonang of Cameroon participated in these meetings. Suffice to say that
Central Africa was already present and represented. if don 'no objection,
Michel can continue the work in this working group.
Baudouin
2012/7/25 <africann-request at afrinic.net>
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> 1. [***SPAM***] [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa
> Strategic plan (Dr Yassin Mshana)
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> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:37:08 +0000
> From: Dr Yassin Mshana <ymshana2003 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [***SPAM***] [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa
> Strategic plan
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> Cc: steve at shinkuro.com
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> Dear Moderator for Africann et al,
>
> Please see email below and below it the content of the communication in
> question that was not shared by the Group.
>
> I do not expect that there is a possibility of 'blocking' any of us in this
> list - or there is?
>
> Please Moderator will you clarify this?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Yassin
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Sophia Bekele <sophiabekele at yahoo.com>
> Date: 25 July 2012 20:38
> Subject: Fw: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa Strategic plan
> To: "Dr. Yassin Mshana" <ymshana2003 at gmail.com>
>
>
> FYI. Dr,. Yassin
> I have sent this email below and some people say they did not receive in
> their inbox, including me.
> A similar posting I sent last month was not also posted.
> Could you please help me send this to the group, since it seem like my
> emails have been blocked.
> Thanks you very much.
>
> ****
> With best wishes,
> *Sophia *----- Forwarded Message -----
>
> *From:* Sophia Bekele <sophiabekele at yahoo.com>
> *To:* "africann at afrinic.net" <africann at afrinic.net>
> *Cc:* Steve Crocker <steve at shinkuro.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2012 1:04 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa Strategic plan
>
> Dear All-
>
> It is known now the whole minutes were cooked after the fact, people's
> complaint and after everyone voiced their opinion on lack of information
> and exclusion from the meetings. This is not correct at all.
>
> re: Pierre's comment:
>
>
> *I then hope the organizers of the 'African meetings at ICANN 44 in Prague
> will provide minutes and other detailed information. Btw, *
> a special list was set up during the conference and I am copying this to
> it. I can only state that African participants to Icann were invited to a
> meeting with Icann Board and the incoming CEO.
>
>
> Well, who were organizers of an ICANN 44 in Prague specifically? Myself
> and my delegation were there and we were not invited. Can we at least know
> who the organizer's names and or affiliation? Were they ICANN employees or
> an adhoc group? Or was it the AU and or UNECA? If from the meetings
> minutes the organizer’s were UNECA and AU, then Makane has seen me well
> before the meeting. Why should there have been a special list just for
> this meeting? Would the regular AfriICANN list not suffice for a
> transparent and inclusive invitation like any other meetings of
> AfriICANN/AFRALO? Let us then have a disclosure of the special list of
> names that was said to have been drafted by the organizers, as they have
> selected (not elected) their friends again in this process.
> If the political organizations want their own representatives, they can
> assign one directly to ICANN, however to gather around in the name of ICANN
> and Africa and to select a few people, who nominally are friends (or
> cronies), on behalf of Africans to represent us Africans, using ICANN
> pedestal in an exclusive list of invitees is wrong, very wrong. What does
> this mean: anyone operating outside this strategic plan developed by the
> self-selected/self-appointed group will not be part of ICANN and have its
> voice
> represented at ICANN? This will not be acceptable. And does ICANN’s
> validation of this self-appointed group sponsored by the political
> organizations mean that we as individuals are excluded from ICANN? If this
> is the case it is a formula for disenfranchisement within the
> generally-accepted multi-stakeholder model.
> We Africans on this list should not leave any stone unturned to make sure
> that any processes that are handled by Africans is transparent and not
> designed to serve the vested interest of a few people, in particular like,
> Dr.Yassin warned when political organizations are involved.
>
> Therefore, my views and objection on the nomination process to represent
> Africa remains the same like with many others on this list, which I guess
> is the old “AfriIcann” list. Until the callers for Africa be it AU and
> UNECA know how to organize themselves properly and inclusively, my formal
> interjection and objection remains, and will continue based on principles.
>
> Let me remind everyone that ICANN is a place we come because we feel free
> to express our opinions and expect that we would be heard and we will
> protect that at any cost. If I have to also make aware, in the new
> multistakeholder environment at ICANN, community and public interest is
> transferable and equally treated to an individual as much as a community,
> which the later has been exploited so far as a platform to gain advantage.
> To illustrate Sophia Bekele is a community, a public interest and also an
> individual and not necessarily in the order!
>
> Finally, I believe that it is important for us to make a clean break from
> the existing practice of a self-appointed, self-endorsing group always
> forcing down ideas down the throat of the members of a consultative group.
> This defeats the objectives of multi-stakeholder consensus.
>
> I hope that I have made my point on the need for us to be always democratic
> and stop practicing dictatorship.
>
>
> ****
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> *From:* Dr Yassin Mshana <ymshana2003 at gmail.com>
> *To:* africann at afrinic.net
> *Cc:* Steve Crocker <steve at shinkuro.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:50 PM
> *Subject:* [***SPAM***] Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa
> Strategic plan
>
> Hello Pierre,
>
> Thank you for this communication and Minute of The Meeting. Much
> appreciated.
>
> I am pleased to see that members of GAC from Africa were present
> (I recognize one).
>
> The issue is that, although the actions taken was right, why not circulate
> the Minutes widely since this <africann at afrinic.net> includes a large
> proportion of Africans? I have not heard a complaint that this list
> excluded anyone so far....
>
> All in all, Why wasn't this sideline at ICANN-44 activity not communicated
> widely - before, during and after the event? It is history now...
>
> My suggestion is to engage a Reverse Gear to this whole thing and let the
> CEO of ICANN know we are doing so. No harm doing that since a round of
> consultations need to take place - for inclusive purposes. In that case,
> ICANN-Toronto will not be the opportune time and place to deal with this.
> If ICANN has budgeted for this activity - not bad eh? They can hold fire
> until another ICANN meeting. That is a lesson we have learned - or is there
> a rush for this which would mislead ICANN and everybody concerned?
>
> I am sorry to have to suggest a STOP to this for the moment - since it is
> better to get things in a right from the beginning.
>
> I have taken the liberty to copy this to Steve Crocker for his attention
> please - since he ought to know about the suggestion.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Yassin
>
> On 25 July 2012 11:42, Dandjinou Pierre <pdandjinou at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All,
> For your information,these minutes were prepared and circulated on the
> AfrICANN 44 list by Makane Faye at the end of the meeting with ICANN Board
>
> The subsequent threads below provide further details .
>
> I am sharing them here for further clarification and hope we Shall now
> move on and collectively deliver
>
> Regards
> Pierre
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Makane Faye* <mfaye at uneca.org>
> Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-44] Africa Strategic plan
> To: Mary Uduma <mnuduma at yahoo.com>, AfrICANN-44 Participant List <
> africann-44 at afrinic.net>
> Cc: "africa at gac.icann.org" <africa at gac.icann.org>, "
> afgwg-discuss at afrinic.net" <afgwg-discuss at afrinic.net>, Steve Crocker <
> steve at shinkuro.com>, Makane Faye <faymakane at gmail.com>, Jamie Hedlund <
> jamie.hedlund at icann.org>
>
>
> Dear Manal, Mary, Moktar and other Colleagues,
>
> I wish to congratulate Alice for proposing a bottom up approach, which
> should be adopted by the IGFs which have not yet started their process. In
> this connection, I would like to echoe Moktar's proposal to strengthen the
> Committee which was established yesterday to depart from a Committee of 4
> to a Committee of 7 taking into account representatives from the remaining
> 3 regions.
>
> In this regard, I propose that Ms Palesa Legose of the Department of
> Communication in South Africa which is the Vice-Chair of the African
> Ministerial ICT Conference represents the Southern African sub-region.
>
> East African stakeholders are requested to consult among themselves and
> propose 1 member to the Committee; the Central African Group is also
> required to follow the same process.
>
> I believe if we have Palesa and one representative each from East and
> Central Africa, the list of Committee members could be closed. May I take
> this opportunity to submit the minutes of yesterday's meeting.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Mary Uduma <mnuduma at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
> I wish to join in thanking Steve and his team for the productive meeting
> held today. The AF Community in ICANN has been encouraged by your show of
> support and commitment towards the different topics discussed today. Thank
> you so much. We look forward to working with the Board in actualissing the
> resolutions reached.
>
> Alice, the East Africa IGF is a good starting point. I have taken a cue
> from you to suggest to the coordinator of West Africa IGF to include such
> discussions at the forthcoming WAIGF in Sierra Leone 2 - 4 July. I have
> received a positive response urging me to be present for the discussion.
>
> I wish to encourage AF community from West Africa to endeavor to attend the
> WAIGF meeting and make contributions to enrich the discussion. Check out
> www,waigf.org to register.
>
> ICANN is a strong partner of the event, and we shall not miss the
> opportunity to reach out to our people. I hope ICANN is sending a strong
> representation to the meeting.
>
> Mary.
> .ng
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "alice at apc.org" <alice at apc.org>
> *To:* africa at gac.icann.org; afgwg-discuss at afrinic.net;
> africann-44 at afrinic.net; africa at gac.icann.org; Jamie Hedlund <
> jamie.hedlund at icann.org>
> *Cc:* Steve Crocker <steve at shinkuro.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:02 PM
>
> *Subject:* [AfrICANN-44] Africa Strategic plan
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> We wish to thank Steve and other members of the board for making the time
> to meet with African stakeholders this morning. It was a very productive
> meeting.
>
> We want to take this opportunity to again welcome the new CEO Fadi
> Chehadé and are grateful for your strong support and look forward to
> working with you to increase Africa's participation and contribution to
> ICANN.
>
> We wish to inform you that the East Africa region plans to hold the
> regional IGF, the East Africa IGF in July 17 and 18th and before then each
> EA country will hold their own national IGF. The Kenya one will take place
> on 6th July in Nairobi.
>
> As you will note from the programme (www.eaigf.or.ke) we have a session
> during the EAIGF that speaks to our engagement with ICANN by way of
> introduction of what ICANN is, what it does and on new gTLDs.
>
> We intend to begin discussions on the proposed Africa strategic plan
> during this meeting to ensure that we have multi-stakeholder consultation
> on identifying the current challenges, proposing possible solutions and
> exploring how we wish to participate and contribute to the ICANN process.
>
> We look forward to sharing the outcome of the forum with you all. We hope
> that the inputs will form a part of the ICANN's Strategic plan under
> development.
>
> Thank you and kind regards
>
> Alice Munyua
> Kenya
>
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