<span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="hps">Hi all,</span><br><br> <span class="hps">Let</span> <span class="hps">me return to</span> <span class="hps">the representation</span> <span class="hps">of Central Africa</span> <span class="hps">in the</span> <span class="hps">working group</span> <span class="hps">on</span> <span class="hps">the African strategy</span> <span class="hps">to ICANN</span><span>.</span><br>
<span class="hps">I think</span> <span class="hps">the meeting in Prague</span> <span class="hps">is already well advanced</span> <span class="hps">in the constitution</span> <span class="hps">of the</span> <span class="hps">representatives in</span> <span class="hps">this working group</span><span>.</span> <span class="hps">for</span> <span class="hps">Central Africa</span><span>,</span> <span class="hps">Michel</span> <span class="hps">Tchnonang</span> <span class="hps">of Cameroon</span> <span class="hps">participated in</span> <span class="hps">these</span> <span class="hps">meetings</span><span>.</span> <span class="hps">Suffice to say</span> <span class="hps">that Central Africa</span> <span class="hps">was</span> <span class="hps">already present and</span> <span class="hps">represented</span><span>.</span> <span class="hps">if</span> <span class="hps atn">don '</span><span class="">no objection</span><span>,</span> <span class="hps">Michel</span> <span class="hps">can</span> <span class="hps">continue the work</span> <span class="hps">in</span> <span class="hps">this working group</span><span>.<br>
<br>Baudouin<br></span></span><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/7/25 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:africann-request@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann-request@afrinic.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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From: Dr Yassin Mshana <<a href="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com">ymshana2003@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [***SPAM***] [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa<br>
Strategic plan<br>
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Dear Moderator for Africann et al,<br>
<br>
Please see email below and below it the content of the communication in<br>
question that was not shared by the Group.<br>
<br>
I do not expect that there is a possibility of 'blocking' any of us in this<br>
list - or there is?<br>
<br>
Please Moderator will you clarify this?<br>
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Kind regards<br>
<br>
Yassin<br>
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From: Sophia Bekele <<a href="mailto:sophiabekele@yahoo.com">sophiabekele@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Date: 25 July 2012 20:38<br>
Subject: Fw: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa Strategic plan<br>
To: "Dr. Yassin Mshana" <<a href="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com">ymshana2003@gmail.com</a>><br>
<br>
<br>
FYI. Dr,. Yassin<br>
I have sent this email below and some people say they did not receive in<br>
their inbox, including me.<br>
A similar posting I sent last month was not also posted.<br>
Could you please help me send this to the group, since it seem like my<br>
emails have been blocked.<br>
Thanks you very much.<br>
<br>
****<br>
With best wishes,<br>
*Sophia *----- Forwarded Message -----<br>
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*From:* Sophia Bekele <<a href="mailto:sophiabekele@yahoo.com">sophiabekele@yahoo.com</a>><br>
*To:* "<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br>
*Cc:* Steve Crocker <<a href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com">steve@shinkuro.com</a>><br>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2012 1:04 PM<br>
*Subject:* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa Strategic plan<br>
<br>
Dear All-<br>
<br>
It is known now the whole minutes were cooked after the fact, people's<br>
complaint and after everyone voiced their opinion on lack of information<br>
and exclusion from the meetings. This is not correct at all.<br>
<br>
re: Pierre's comment:<br>
<br>
<br>
*I then hope the organizers of the 'African meetings at ICANN 44 in Prague<br>
will provide minutes and other detailed information. Btw, *<br>
a special list was set up during the conference and I am copying this to<br>
it. I can only state that African participants to Icann were invited to a<br>
meeting with Icann Board and the incoming CEO.<br>
<br>
<br>
Well, who were organizers of an ICANN 44 in Prague specifically? Myself<br>
and my delegation were there and we were not invited. Can we at least know<br>
who the organizer's names and or affiliation? Were they ICANN employees or<br>
an adhoc group? Or was it the AU and or UNECA? If from the meetings<br>
minutes the organizer’s were UNECA and AU, then Makane has seen me well<br>
before the meeting. Why should there have been a special list just for<br>
this meeting? Would the regular AfriICANN list not suffice for a<br>
transparent and inclusive invitation like any other meetings of<br>
AfriICANN/AFRALO? Let us then have a disclosure of the special list of<br>
names that was said to have been drafted by the organizers, as they have<br>
selected (not elected) their friends again in this process.<br>
If the political organizations want their own representatives, they can<br>
assign one directly to ICANN, however to gather around in the name of ICANN<br>
and Africa and to select a few people, who nominally are friends (or<br>
cronies), on behalf of Africans to represent us Africans, using ICANN<br>
pedestal in an exclusive list of invitees is wrong, very wrong. What does<br>
this mean: anyone operating outside this strategic plan developed by the<br>
self-selected/self-appointed group will not be part of ICANN and have its voice<br>
represented at ICANN? This will not be acceptable. And does ICANN’s<br>
validation of this self-appointed group sponsored by the political<br>
organizations mean that we as individuals are excluded from ICANN? If this<br>
is the case it is a formula for disenfranchisement within the<br>
generally-accepted multi-stakeholder model.<br>
We Africans on this list should not leave any stone unturned to make sure<br>
that any processes that are handled by Africans is transparent and not<br>
designed to serve the vested interest of a few people, in particular like,<br>
Dr.Yassin warned when political organizations are involved.<br>
<br>
Therefore, my views and objection on the nomination process to represent<br>
Africa remains the same like with many others on this list, which I guess<br>
is the old “AfriIcann” list. Until the callers for Africa be it AU and<br>
UNECA know how to organize themselves properly and inclusively, my formal<br>
interjection and objection remains, and will continue based on principles.<br>
<br>
Let me remind everyone that ICANN is a place we come because we feel free<br>
to express our opinions and expect that we would be heard and we will<br>
protect that at any cost. If I have to also make aware, in the new<br>
multistakeholder environment at ICANN, community and public interest is<br>
transferable and equally treated to an individual as much as a community,<br>
which the later has been exploited so far as a platform to gain advantage.<br>
To illustrate Sophia Bekele is a community, a public interest and also an<br>
individual and not necessarily in the order!<br>
<br>
Finally, I believe that it is important for us to make a clean break from<br>
the existing practice of a self-appointed, self-endorsing group always<br>
forcing down ideas down the throat of the members of a consultative group.<br>
This defeats the objectives of multi-stakeholder consensus.<br>
<br>
I hope that I have made my point on the need for us to be always democratic<br>
and stop practicing dictatorship.<br>
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*From:* Dr Yassin Mshana <<a href="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com">ymshana2003@gmail.com</a>><br>
*To:* <a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a><br>
*Cc:* Steve Crocker <<a href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com">steve@shinkuro.com</a>><br>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:50 PM<br>
*Subject:* [***SPAM***] Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa<br>
Strategic plan<br>
<br>
Hello Pierre,<br>
<br>
Thank you for this communication and Minute of The Meeting. Much<br>
appreciated.<br>
<br>
I am pleased to see that members of GAC from Africa were present<br>
(I recognize one).<br>
<br>
The issue is that, although the actions taken was right, why not circulate<br>
the Minutes widely since this <<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>> includes a large<br>
proportion of Africans? I have not heard a complaint that this list<br>
excluded anyone so far....<br>
<br>
All in all, Why wasn't this sideline at ICANN-44 activity not communicated<br>
widely - before, during and after the event? It is history now...<br>
<br>
My suggestion is to engage a Reverse Gear to this whole thing and let the<br>
CEO of ICANN know we are doing so. No harm doing that since a round of<br>
consultations need to take place - for inclusive purposes. In that case,<br>
ICANN-Toronto will not be the opportune time and place to deal with this.<br>
If ICANN has budgeted for this activity - not bad eh? They can hold fire<br>
until another ICANN meeting. That is a lesson we have learned - or is there<br>
a rush for this which would mislead ICANN and everybody concerned?<br>
<br>
I am sorry to have to suggest a STOP to this for the moment - since it is<br>
better to get things in a right from the beginning.<br>
<br>
I have taken the liberty to copy this to Steve Crocker for his attention<br>
please - since he ought to know about the suggestion.<br>
<br>
Kind regards<br>
<br>
Yassin<br>
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On 25 July 2012 11:42, Dandjinou Pierre <<a href="mailto:pdandjinou@gmail.com">pdandjinou@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
All,<br>
For your information,these minutes were prepared and circulated on the<br>
AfrICANN 44 list by Makane Faye at the end of the meeting with ICANN Board<br>
<br>
The subsequent threads below provide further details .<br>
<br>
I am sharing them here for further clarification and hope we Shall now<br>
move on and collectively deliver<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Pierre<br>
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From: *Makane Faye* <<a href="mailto:mfaye@uneca.org">mfaye@uneca.org</a>><br>
Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:11 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-44] Africa Strategic plan<br>
To: Mary Uduma <<a href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com">mnuduma@yahoo.com</a>>, AfrICANN-44 Participant List <<br>
<a href="mailto:africann-44@afrinic.net">africann-44@afrinic.net</a>><br>
Cc: "<a href="mailto:africa@gac.icann.org">africa@gac.icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:africa@gac.icann.org">africa@gac.icann.org</a>>, "<br>
<a href="mailto:afgwg-discuss@afrinic.net">afgwg-discuss@afrinic.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:afgwg-discuss@afrinic.net">afgwg-discuss@afrinic.net</a>>, Steve Crocker <<br>
<a href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com">steve@shinkuro.com</a>>, Makane Faye <<a href="mailto:faymakane@gmail.com">faymakane@gmail.com</a>>, Jamie Hedlund <<br>
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Dear Manal, Mary, Moktar and other Colleagues,<br>
<br>
I wish to congratulate Alice for proposing a bottom up approach, which<br>
should be adopted by the IGFs which have not yet started their process. In<br>
this connection, I would like to echoe Moktar's proposal to strengthen the<br>
Committee which was established yesterday to depart from a Committee of 4<br>
to a Committee of 7 taking into account representatives from the remaining<br>
3 regions.<br>
<br>
In this regard, I propose that Ms Palesa Legose of the Department of<br>
Communication in South Africa which is the Vice-Chair of the African<br>
Ministerial ICT Conference represents the Southern African sub-region.<br>
<br>
East African stakeholders are requested to consult among themselves and<br>
propose 1 member to the Committee; the Central African Group is also<br>
required to follow the same process.<br>
<br>
I believe if we have Palesa and one representative each from East and<br>
Central Africa, the list of Committee members could be closed. May I take<br>
this opportunity to submit the minutes of yesterday's meeting.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
<br>
Mary Uduma <<a href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com">mnuduma@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Dear All,<br>
I wish to join in thanking Steve and his team for the productive meeting<br>
held today. The AF Community in ICANN has been encouraged by your show of<br>
support and commitment towards the different topics discussed today. Thank<br>
you so much. We look forward to working with the Board in actualissing the<br>
resolutions reached.<br>
<br>
Alice, the East Africa IGF is a good starting point. I have taken a cue<br>
from you to suggest to the coordinator of West Africa IGF to include such<br>
discussions at the forthcoming WAIGF in Sierra Leone 2 - 4 July. I have<br>
received a positive response urging me to be present for the discussion.<br>
<br>
I wish to encourage AF community from West Africa to endeavor to attend the<br>
WAIGF meeting and make contributions to enrich the discussion. Check out<br>
www,<a href="http://waigf.org" target="_blank">waigf.org</a> to register.<br>
<br>
ICANN is a strong partner of the event, and we shall not miss the<br>
opportunity to reach out to our people. I hope ICANN is sending a strong<br>
representation to the meeting.<br>
<br>
Mary.<br>
.ng<br>
<br>
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<a href="mailto:africann-44@afrinic.net">africann-44@afrinic.net</a>; <a href="mailto:africa@gac.icann.org">africa@gac.icann.org</a>; Jamie Hedlund <<br>
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*Cc:* Steve Crocker <<a href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com">steve@shinkuro.com</a>><br>
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:02 PM<br>
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*Subject:* [AfrICANN-44] Africa Strategic plan<br>
<br>
Dear Colleagues,<br>
<br>
We wish to thank Steve and other members of the board for making the time<br>
to meet with African stakeholders this morning. It was a very productive<br>
meeting.<br>
<br>
We want to take this opportunity to again welcome the new CEO Fadi<br>
Chehadé and are grateful for your strong support and look forward to<br>
working with you to increase Africa's participation and contribution to<br>
ICANN.<br>
<br>
We wish to inform you that the East Africa region plans to hold the<br>
regional IGF, the East Africa IGF in July 17 and 18th and before then each<br>
EA country will hold their own national IGF. The Kenya one will take place<br>
on 6th July in Nairobi.<br>
<br>
As you will note from the programme (<a href="http://www.eaigf.or.ke" target="_blank">www.eaigf.or.ke</a>) we have a session<br>
during the EAIGF that speaks to our engagement with ICANN by way of<br>
introduction of what ICANN is, what it does and on new gTLDs.<br>
<br>
We intend to begin discussions on the proposed Africa strategic plan<br>
during this meeting to ensure that we have multi-stakeholder consultation<br>
on identifying the current challenges, proposing possible solutions and<br>
exploring how we wish to participate and contribute to the ICANN process.<br>
<br>
We look forward to sharing the outcome of the forum with you all. We hope<br>
that the inputs will form a part of the ICANN's Strategic plan under<br>
development.<br>
<br>
Thank you and kind regards<br>
<br>
Alice Munyua<br>
Kenya<br>
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