[AfrICANN-discuss] On dot.africa

Sophia B sophiabekele at gmail.com
Mon Nov 26 05:28:51 SAST 2007 

Eric -

Greetings.

I have not seen any one use "foul" language on this email list for that
matter:-)

However, I appreciate your valued contributions on this subject and also in
Kigali. I believe I met you at the IGF prep meeting.

rdgs
Sophia


On 19/11/2007, Eric M.K Osiakwan <emko at internetresearch.com.gh> wrote:
>
>  As a rule of thumb, i think we should excercise decorum on the exchanges
> and we can still express our views without using foul language which really
> does not move us forward.
>
>
> Back to the issue, i think we have all expressed interested in working on
> a consolidated proposal going forward which means that even if not on this
> list, those who have propsoal must consolidate in a mutual way and then get
> the communities involvement to ensure owership and equity.
>
>
> Please, we as Africans must stop fighting among oursleves, otherwise the
> real enemy advances in laughter...whiles we mark time.
>
>
> Eric here
>
>
>
>  On 18 Nov 2007, at 10:20, Njeri Rionge wrote:
>
>  I like this approach. Any suggestions on how best to move forward.
>
> At this stage I want to take a back seat as this may play on possible
> conflicts of interests for me.
>
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> Njeri,
>
>
> On 11/18/07 1:14 AM, "Dr Yassin Mshana" <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear all of us,
>
> I, as part of the African community is very concerned about what this
> discussion is heading to -  concession and clarity is all is needed here
> otherwise a door will be open for a dispute even before the Dot Africa comes
> into being.
>
> It seems that the debate is now becoming personal at the expense of the
> community.
>
> I can see from the angle I am looking at this issue that  there is a
> danger of diluting the role that the representatives of African community in
> this activity. It is obvious that most of the activities are carried out
> voluntarily and some of the roles holders are paid for sponsoring
> organisations or governments or their businesses. In that case,
> stakeholder-ship  may be polarised  by the perceived benefits. We have to
> build a foundation for  transparency and accountability;but this may just be
> a dream if there are internal forces that may work against what needs to be
> achieved for the benefit of the society or community whichever case.
>
> The Internet phenomenon is changing this world  rapidly more  than any
> other evolution or revolution that happened to in the human history - it  is
> a technological invention will  benefit  all concerned - the challenge is to
> balance profit and the social responsibility that comes with it........?
>
> The saga that is about to emerge about this Dot Africa can be a recipe for
> undesirable stumbling block that the community or Society would not wish to
> be affected by.
>
> That is my observation and a request for a resolution at a pre-saga stage
> of this process.
>
> Positive representation of the African community is a role not a choice
> nor is it a personal action - otherwise a slippery slope is the reward to
> which Africans would not like to be pulled or pushed to.....
>
> Cheers
>
> Yassin
>
> On 17/11/2007, *support* <support.dotafrica at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Adiel
>
> Your response sounds like political babble, contradictory
> and inflammatory.
>
> 1) AfriNIC has not chosen to make anything public. All mailing
>    has what is called "achieves" which are publicly available
>
>
> This statement is contradictory. I do not see the
> point of obscuring the thread, while all of the email thread
> should be transparent.
>
> for anyone. AfriNIC hosts several mailing lists among which
> africann at afrinic.net.
>    See: http://www.afrinic.net/mailinglist.htm for details
>
> 2) I will really advise you to refrain your constant agitation on
>    this list about dotAfrica.
>
>
> I do not appreciate the petty threat implied by your statement.
> The information I have conveyed regarding the .Africa so far on this
> list has been informative, providing status updates and my comments
> have had consistent positive responses.
>
> It was my understanding that Afrinic was brought in to provide a
> democratic and not fascist platform to bully individuals who do not
> comply with Afrinic's edict.
>
> I don't personally see any initiative
>    around ".Africa" which can succeed in margin of the bottom up
>    and transparent approach which are principles that this community
>    is build on.
>
>
> I am surprised to learn that you have  'this community'  that owns
> the AFRICAN continent.  Some of us work to be inclusive and not divisive.
> It is my opinion that cooperation and not competition is the formula
> required
> for success in Africa; based on truth, justice and democracy.
>
> I am part of the African community, if you do not wish to cooperate, then
> all
> is fair in love and war, may the best initiative win!
>
> rdgs
> s
> -----------
>
> thanks.
> - a.
>
>
>
> At 15:10 16/11/2007 -0800, Sophia B wrote:
>
>
> *Dear Anna Richel, AfriNic
> *
>
> Someone brought the posting below to my attention.
>
> I believe 'Afrinic' was chose as a platform  for discussions associated
> with the creation of the Afri-ICANN group which I was also instrumental in
> pushing for the set up when I joined GNSO/ICANN and we are all benefiting
> from these discussions.
>
> Given the debates we had on dot.africa the past few weeks, I was not sure
> why Afrinic has chosen to be selective in optimizing the information below
> to be posted on the Internet rather than post the whole discussion to ensure
> the various responses are fairly represented.  It would appear that Afrinic
> is opportunistic and exploitative and I give it a reasonable double that the
> intention is not that.
>
> I would therefore, appreciate if Afrinic would take immediate steps to
> make the correction.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Sophia
>
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> Kind regards, *Sophia Bekele* On 11/10/2007, Anne-Rachel Inné < annerachel
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