[AfrICANN-discuss] On dot.africa

Sun Nov 18 07:20:02 UTC 2007

I like this approach. Any suggestions on how best to move forward.

At this stage I want to take a back seat as this may play on possible
conflicts of interests for me.

Cheers!

Njeri,

On 11/18/07 1:14 AM, "Dr Yassin Mshana" <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all of us,
> 
> I, as part of the African community is very concerned about what this
> discussion is heading to -  concession and clarity is all is needed here
> otherwise a door will be open for a dispute even before the Dot Africa comes
> into being. 
> 
> It seems that the debate is now becoming personal at the expense of the
> community. 
> 
> I can see from the angle I am looking at this issue that  there is a danger of
> diluting the role that the representatives of African community in this
> activity. It is obvious that most of the activities are carried out
> voluntarily and some of the roles holders are paid for sponsoring
> organisations or governments or their businesses. In that case,
> stakeholder-ship  may be polarised  by the perceived benefits. We have to
> build a foundation for  transparency and accountability;but this may just be a
> dream if there are internal forces that may work against what needs to be
> achieved for the benefit of the society or community whichever case.
> 
> The Internet phenomenon is changing this world  rapidly more  than any other
> evolution or revolution that happened to in the human history - it  is a
> technological invention will  benefit  all concerned - the challenge is to
> balance profit and the social responsibility that comes with it........?
> 
> The saga that is about to emerge about this Dot Africa can be a recipe for
> undesirable stumbling block that the community or Society would not wish to be
> affected by.
> 
> That is my observation and a request for a resolution at a pre-saga stage of
> this process. 
> 
> Positive representation of the African community is a role not a choice nor is
> it a personal action - otherwise a slippery slope is the reward to which
> Africans would not like to be pulled or pushed to.....
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Yassin
> 
> On 17/11/2007, support <support.dotafrica at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Adiel
>>  
>> Your response sounds like political babble, contradictory
>> and inflammatory.
>>  
>>> 1) AfriNIC has not chosen to make anything public. All mailing
>>>    has what is called "achieves" which are publicly available
>>  
>> This statement is contradictory. I do not see the
>> point of obscuring the thread, while all of the email thread
>> should be transparent.
>>  
>>> for anyone. AfriNIC hosts several mailing lists among which
>>> africann at afrinic.net.
>>>    See: http://www.afrinic.net/mailinglist.htm for details
>>> 
>>> 2) I will really advise you to refrain your constant agitation on
>>>    this list about dotAfrica.
>>>  
>> I do not appreciate the petty threat implied by your statement.
>> The information I have conveyed regarding the .Africa so far on this
>> list has been informative, providing status updates and my comments
>> have had consistent positive responses.
>>  
>> It was my understanding that Afrinic was brought in to provide a
>> democratic and not fascist platform to bully individuals who do not
>> comply with Afrinic's edict.
>>  
>>>  I don't personally see any initiative
>>>    around ".Africa" which can succeed in margin of the bottom up
>>>    and transparent approach which are principles that this community
>>>    is build on.
>>>  
>> I am surprised to learn that you have  'this community'  that owns
>> the AFRICAN continent.  Some of us work to be inclusive and not divisive.
>> It is my opinion that cooperation and not competition is the formula required
>> for success in Africa; based on truth, justice and democracy.
>>  
>> I am part of the African community, if you do not wish to cooperate, then all
>> is fair in love and war, may the best initiative win!
>>  
>> rdgs
>> s
>> -----------
>> 
>> thanks.
>> - a. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 15:10 16/11/2007 -0800, Sophia B wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Dear Anna Richel, AfriNic
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Someone brought the posting below to my attention.
>>>> 
>>>> I believe 'Afrinic' was chose as a platform  for discussions associated
>>>> with the creation of the Afri-ICANN group which I was also instrumental in
>>>> pushing for the set up when I joined GNSO/ICANN and we are all benefiting
>>>> from these discussions.
>>>> 
>>>> Given the debates we had on dot.africa the past few weeks, I was not sure
>>>> why Afrinic has chosen to be selective in optimizing the information below
>>>> to be posted on the Internet rather than post the whole discussion to
>>>> ensure the various responses are fairly represented.  It would appear that
>>>> Afrinic is opportunistic and exploitative and I give it a reasonable double
>>>> that the intention is not that.
>>>> 
>>>> I would therefore, appreciate if Afrinic would take immediate steps to make
>>>> the correction.
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Sophia
>>>> 
>>>> [Aftld-discuss] [AfrICANN-discuss] Resending letter to ccTLD ...
>>>> <http://lists.aftld.org/pipermail/aftld-discuss/2007-October/000184.html>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards, Sophia Bekele On 11/10/2007, Anne-Rachel Inné < annerachel at
>>>> gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>  < mailto: annerachel at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:%20annerachel%20at%20gmail.com> > > wrote: Dear All, Please respond
>>>> ... 
>>>> lists.aftld.org/pipermail/aftld-discuss/2007-October/000184.html
>>>> <http://lists.aftld.org/pipermail/aftld-discuss/2007-October/000184.html> -
>>>> 17k - Cached 
>>>> <http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:M2PersgifxQJ:lists.aftld.org/pipermail
>>>> /aftld-discuss/2007-October/000184.html+sophia+bekele&hl=en&ct=clnk
>>>> &cd=24&gl=uk>  - Similar pages
>>>> <http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGIC_en-GBUS248US249&q
>>>> =related:lists.aftld.org/pipermail/aftld-discuss/2007-October/000184.html>
>>>> - Note this 
>>>> <http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sophia+bekele&hl=en&rlz=1T4GGIC_e
>>>> n-GBUS248US249&start=20&sa=N#>
>>>> 
>>>> [Aftld-discuss] [AfrICANN-discuss] Resending lette
>>>> <http://lists.aftld.org/pipermail/aftld-discuss/2007-October/000185.html>
>>>>  
>>>> <http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sophia+bekele&hl=en&rlz=1T4GGIC_e
>>>> n-GBUS248US249&start=20&sa=N#>
>>> 
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