<div dir="auto">Just to add to this,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It would be remiss of me to not point out that there were a flood of complaints and concerns about the IETF holding a meeting in the U.S. under the current political climate, and the fact that it was excluding a large segment of regular participants. I fully understand why the IETF could not move the meeting (as they did during trumps first term with the travel bans) - but it’s hardly fair to complain that AfriNIC does not move a meeting to fall in line with IETF scheduling when such concerns have gone unaddressed. I also believe that it’s high time the IETF hosted a meeting in Africa - which has also never happened.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There needs to be support for Africa from the IETF as much as their needs to be support for the IETF from African institutions - it goes both ways, and right now it’s extremely one sided.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So now we are in a situation where the IETF is holding a meeting in a location that is extremely hostile to so many groups of people - and at the same time asking those same people to accommodate their scheduling. Doesn’t work that way</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Andrew </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 28, 2026 at 15:45, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:aa@alstonnetworks.net">aa@alstonnetworks.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Actually I care very much - but I am also aware that the dates of this PDP meeting coincide with other major tech events that are held in Cape Town - and as a result the dates set will maximize attendence at AfriNIC amongst African attendees because of those dates.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If we have to balance that with the fact that African participation in the ietf is sadly abysmal - it’s in my view more important from an African perspective to hold a meeting that maximises African participation - which this does.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Andrew </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 28, 2026 at 15:40, jordi.palet--- via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="line-break:after-white-space">Hi Andrew,<div><br></div><div>The community is not only from Africa, we must not forget that. And also you can always participate remotely. But this is not the point, the point is the respect to the rules that we had for many years among all the RIRs, IETF, etc. It shows you don’t care about people contributing, as said in my previous email.</div><div><br></div><div><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>El 28 ago 2026, a las 16:00, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:aa@alstonnetworks.net" target="_blank">aa@alstonnetworks.net</a>> escribió:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Jordi,<div><br></div><div>While I would normally agree with this 100%, considering the clash is with the San Francisco meeting - which many people in Africa will not be able to attend due to massive problems getting US visas at the moment (Multi-month wait times just to get an appointment for a tourist visa and huge deposits, etc.)—I see it as less of a problem than if this were an IETF meeting held elsewhere.</div><div><br></div><div>Andrew</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 28, 2026 at 1:57 PM jordi.palet--- via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi all,<div><br></div><div>There is an agreement among all the RIRs, IETF, ICANN, ISOC, etc. to avoid clashes in their meetings.</div><div><br></div><div>This is being organized the SAME week as the IETF in San Francisco. This was fixed many years ago.</div><div><br></div><div>Clearly the AFRINIC MUST change the dates for this meeting.</div><div><div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,<br>Jordi<br><br>@jordipalet<br></div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>El 28 ago 2026, a las 13:51, AFRINIC Communication via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> escribió:</div><br><div><div><p dir="ltr" id="m_-315012973774487668m_-1290559978145212972m_-375260291712109516docs-internal-guid-ac38d030-7fff-defa-074c-51b91436a7bf" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;white-space:pre-wrap;text-align:justify">[Version en français au bas]</span></p><p dir="ltr" id="m_-315012973774487668m_-1290559978145212972m_-375260291712109516docs-internal-guid-ac38d030-7fff-defa-074c-51b91436a7bf" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;white-space:pre-wrap;text-align:justify">Dear Colleagues,</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">We are pleased to announce that the AFRINIC-38 Public Policy Meeting (PPM) will be held on Wednesday, 18 November 2026, in Cape Town, South Africa.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">AFRINIC-38 will be held in a hybrid format, enabling participants from across Africa and around the world to discuss and review Internet number resource policies that guide the management and distribution of Internet number resources within the AFRINIC service region.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Your participation is important, as the outcomes of these discussions contribute to shaping policies that affect the Internet ecosystem, businesses, and digital development across Africa. We therefore encourage AFRINIC members and the wider Internet community to participate, share their perspectives, and contribute to an open and inclusive Policy Development Process.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Further details, including the programme, registration process, venue, and participation arrangements, will be communicated in due course.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">We look forward to welcoming you to AFRINIC-38 in Cape Town.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Kind Regards,</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">AFRINIC Communication</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">……………………………………</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;white-space:pre-wrap;text-align:justify">Chers membres de la communauté,</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Nous avons le plaisir de vous annoncer que la Réunion de politique publique AFRINIC-38 (PPM) se tiendra le mercredi 18 novembre 2026 à Cape Town, en Afrique du Sud.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">AFRINIC-38 se déroulera en format hybride, permettant aux participants de toute l’Afrique et du reste du monde de discuter et d’examiner les politiques relatives aux ressources numériques Internet qui encadrent la gestion et la distribution de ces ressources dans la région de service d’AFRINIC.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Votre participation est importante, car les resultats de ces discussions contribuent à façonner des politiques qui ont un impact sur l’écosystème Internet, les entreprises et le développement numérique en Afrique. 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