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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hi Noah,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Trolling isn’t the right word for this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Stakeholder governance processed through open email forums is the likeliest place for AI to take a seat at the table of governance.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>It’s not like Claude will be elected to any parliament.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>But this unique governance form for a global asset provides the opportunity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I say, who cares if Claude is posting, or ChatGPT, or any other AI. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Give them a seat at the table and address their arguments.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Giving them a veneer of humanness through identity appropriation is not the way forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Again, I am interested in hearing other perspectives.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Regards,<br>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Noah <noah@neo.co.tz> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 22, 2026 1:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> Hytham El-Nakhal <hytham@tra.gov.eg><br><b>Cc:</b> pdwg-chairs@afrinic.net; rpd List <rpd@afrinic.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] PDWG Co-Chairs communication regarding observed behavioron AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear Hytham<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am writing to request and call for moderating the RPD list.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The ongoing Trolling activity is a shame.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have never experienced anything like this as a participant on RIPE, APNIC, LACNIC and ARIN - policy development mailing list.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We have a culture problem within AFRINIC service region and we need to raise the occassion and above this level of immaturity.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>./noah</b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, 21 Jul 2026, 4:10<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>pm Hytham El-Nakhal, <<a href="mailto:hytham@tra.gov.eg">hytham@tra.gov.eg</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Dear PDWG,<br><br><br><br><br><br>I have taken note of the various posts on the RPD ML regarding the proposal “Hierarchical Names for New AS-SETs” that has entered into Last Call after it reached rough consensus during the AFRINIC-37 PPM held on 24 June 2026. The mailing list has recently been flooded with multiple emails stating either the same duplicate objections or consistent pushbacks to every post, some of them with subject line containing ‘Digest’.<br><br>The specific purpose of the Last Call phase is to allow the Community to review the final draft of the proposal and to voice any new valid objections that may have been missed during the discussion phase and would have unintended consequences. In case of the latter, the objection needs to be fully justified, rather than simply repeating past points that have already been addressed.<br><br><br><br>This behavior during the Last Call period is placing an unnecessary and additional burden on the subscribers, PDWG chairs, and staff as each post has to be read and contents assessed.<br><br>We wish to explicitly remind the PDWG that the number of opposers does not count towards consensus determination, and repeating identical objections does not influence the outcome.<br><br><br><br>I recommend that every contributor use this guide below before commenting on the proposals that are at discussion stage or have reached Last Call : -<br><br> 1. Familiarise yourself with the consensus-driven AFRINIC PDP and the proposal [See Section below]<br> 2. Read the proposal and consult the archives of discussions as well as previous Public Policy Meeting proceedings<br> 3. Read and adhere to the AFRINIC Code of Conduct - <a href="https://www.afrinic.net/code.html" target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/code.html</a> . Participants are expected to work collaboratively to build consensus with other participants and to find solutions to problems in the case of policy development.<br> 4. Familiarise yourself with the contributions that have happened during the stage (Under discussion or Last Call) . Share your view or objection if they are new ; i.e has not been addressed by others. More specifically in the Last Call, all those opposed are encouraged to focus on explaining concisely how the proposal acts as a blocker now. They should provide reasons as to why this feedback could not be provided when the proposal was first submitted to the RPD mailing list, rather than repeating generic objections.<br> 5. When contributing, please ensure that the Policy name and ID is included in the subject line [responding to digests further complicates the assessment per proposal]. If you are providing the perspective of your employer that is a Resource Member or as an individual contributor, please say so and provide details.<br> 6. In the event, that you have a new policy related topic or idea to discuss, please change the subject line accordingly.<br><br> In the event that disruptive multiple posts and duplicate submissions persist, adequate administrative measures will be considered to ensure the efficiency of the process.<br><br>As we proceed towards the end of Last call for each proposal, a summary of the contributions is prepared and shared with the PDWG on this mailing list. I expect the collaboration of everyone.<br><br><br><br>To educate the PDWG new members and the community at large on the policy development framework, it is vital to understand the formal policy development process. The AFRINIC PDP is strictly governed by Section 3 of the Policy Manual, which can be consulted here : <a href="https://www.afrinic.net/consolidated-policy-manual.html" target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/consolidated-policy-manual.html</a>. An explanatory webinar was also conducted recently to onboard participants in policy development and can be accessed here : <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoB1ZjXgN44" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoB1ZjXgN44</a>.<br><br><br>For historical context, all prior discussions on the proposals that have reached Last Call can be consulted in the RPD archives : <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/</a>. The proposals were further discussed during the AF-37 PPM in hybrid mode, allowing registered online and onsite participants to contribute.<br><br>The AF-37 PPM minutes can be accessed here : <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RS9bYBb9-8uQxLb4u8LpvEUw1jZSfei5mLj01l2LS1s/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RS9bYBb9-8uQxLb4u8LpvEUw1jZSfei5mLj01l2LS1s/edit?usp=sharing</a><br><br><br>Kind Regards,<br>Haitham el Nakhal<br>PDWG Co-Chair<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>