<div dir="auto">Hi Mark,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Similar timing and similar views do not establish misconduct. The co-chairs can assess the contributions on their merits.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I will not engage further with speculation about participants.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards,</div><div dir="auto">Nonhlanhla </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 21 Jul 2026, 2:58 pm <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: Writing tools (Mark Elkins)<br>
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 14:57:26 +0200<br>
From: Mark Elkins <<a href="mailto:mark@posix.co.za" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mark@posix.co.za</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Writing tools<br>
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+1<br>
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They all joined the mailing list around the same time +/- a week.<br>
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They all seem to have the same agenda<br>
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Hmm...<br>
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On 2026/07/21 14:28, Andrew Alston wrote:<br>
> Personally it is not the use of AI that I find objectionable - it is <br>
> clear coordination to attempt to derail consensus using an objection <br>
> which is not based on fact or evidence.<br>
><br>
> Necessity is not a requirement for policy - never has been - and <br>
> objections should raise issues that show the policy would do harm or <br>
> is out of scope, they should be evidence based, and not purely subjective.<br>
><br>
> At this point what I am seeing is a bunch of coordinated posts <br>
> generated by AI and sent by random individuals who when looking at <br>
> LinkedIn profiles seem to have no relation to the industry.<br>
><br>
> While anyone is free to participate in the PDP and I strongly support <br>
> that, such participation needs to be done in good faith, and I am <br>
> starting to seriously doubt that element exists here<br>
><br>
> Andrew<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 14:08, Gugu Dhlamini <br>
> <<a href="mailto:gugudhlamini343@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gugudhlamini343@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hi Sami,<br>
><br>
> The concern is not reasonable moderation. It is that AI use is<br>
> being raised mainly against participants who oppose these<br>
> policies, as though the tool makes their objections illegitimate.<br>
><br>
> If anyone floods the list, moderate the flooding. Apply that rule<br>
> equally, regardless of viewpoint or drafting method. A real<br>
> participant using AI to translate, edit, or organise their own<br>
> position is not grounds for exclusion.<br>
><br>
> An open PDP cannot embrace technology for registry operations<br>
> while condemning it when unfamiliar participants use it to speak.<br>
> That would be gatekeeping, not consensus.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Gugu<br>
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> On Tue, 21 Jul 2026, 10:48 am Sami Ait Ali Oulahcen via RPD<br>
> <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> It's been really difficult to follow the list this past 2/3<br>
> days. And I imagine I'm not alone.<br>
> I fully agree on moderating the AI madness. Otherwise, it'll<br>
> dissuade many folks from following/participating.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Sami<br>
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> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Mike Silber" <<a href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">silber.mike@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: "rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2026 4:40:55 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Writing tools<br>
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> A useful discussion - thank you<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 5:17?PM Mike Burns via RPD<br>
> <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> > Hi Rob,<br>
> ><br>
> > Yes, the language is a clear tell of AI? usage, but flowery<br>
> language alone<br>
> > is not swamping the list.<br>
><br>
> I don't want to hijack the AS-SET discussion, so thank you for<br>
> the new<br>
> > subject line.<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> Agreed<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > Now, sometimes? and unfortunately, I can use vague and<br>
> flowery language<br>
> > myself, so I would advise you to treat the AI stuff like the<br>
> human stuff.<br>
> > Ignore it if it's too vague or flowery to serve as a good<br>
> argument, and<br>
> > you have clearly laid out the two arguments in your last two<br>
> lines.<br>
> > Hopefully the list will show judgement and treat clear and<br>
> concise<br>
> > arguments better than vague ones.<br>
> > And then the AI posts, if they want to be successful, will<br>
> avoid the<br>
> > purple prose.<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> I think it goes beyond flowery language.<br>
><br>
> I am concerned that this is a precedent for AI generated DDoS<br>
> attacks on<br>
> the PDP and I do think we should have some light touch<br>
> guidelines. I<br>
> suspect that one of the reasons for the AI-slop flood is not<br>
> just to try<br>
> convince anyone of the value or legitimacy of their views but<br>
> rather to<br>
> overwhelm and frustrate other participants and cause them to<br>
> withdraw from<br>
> participation.<br>
><br>
> Accordingly, I suggest we don't simply leave this to the<br>
> co-chairs to<br>
> determine on a case by case basis, but rather set some<br>
> guidelines under<br>
> which measures can be taken to avoid AI DDoS.<br>
><br>
> Anyway - just my ZAR0,02 which is not worth much<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> Mike S<br>
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