<div dir="auto">Dear Taye,<div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto">Thank you for your thoughtful message.</div><div dir="auto">I agree that our focus should remain on the policy itself. Strong community discussions are built by addressing ideas on their merits, not by questioning the people presenting them.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kind regards,</div><div dir="auto">Fundiswa Nadia Maseko</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 21 Jul 2026, 16:24 , <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: Policy supremacy (Nia Petronella)<br>
2. Re: Policy supremacy (Ben Roberts - AfriNIC)<br>
3. The question is whether the content is Just Nuisance (Paul Hjul)<br>
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 16:21:55 +0200<br>
From: Nia Petronella <<a href="mailto:nonhlanhlapetronella85@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">nonhlanhlapetronella85@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Taye Medoye <<a href="mailto:daniel.medoye@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">daniel.medoye@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [rpd] Policy supremacy<br>
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Dear colleagues,<br>
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I agree with Taye. The discussion has drifted from the policy into<br>
judgments about who is entitled to participate and how they prepare their<br>
messages.<br>
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A community process should test evidence and arguments, not familiarity,<br>
seniority, email addresses, or writing style. Participation brings<br>
expertise, warning, and objection, but it does not give anyone a mandate to<br>
belittle or exclude others.<br>
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Remarks questioning whether objectors are even human cross a line. Whatever<br>
one?s position on the proposal or AI tools, personal ridicule is not a<br>
technical rebuttal.<br>
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The sensible course is to apply the Code of Conduct consistently, lower the<br>
temperature, and return to the actual policy issues.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Nonhlanhla<br>
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2026, 3:42 pm Taye Medoye <<a href="mailto:daniel.medoye@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">daniel.medoye@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Dear All,<br>
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> Permit me to remark that the first impression one gets perusing the<br>
> torrent of submissions in the last twenty-four hours, is that the focus of<br>
> the Community may have shifted from making helpful and concrete inputs<br>
> towards a proposed policy development, to a supremacy contest, and most<br>
> likely unhealthy rivalry over language use. If this insinuation is valid,<br>
> then there's a need to retreat and refocus.<br>
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> While the concerns of Jordi are noted, and worthy of critical<br>
> consideration, the point has to be made that the discussion process for<br>
> reaching a consensus on any policy proposal, as enshrined in the standard<br>
> operating procedure, has to be mutual and convincing to receive acceptance.<br>
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> In another context, the remarks from Ben, sent from his iPhone - objectors<br>
> who all simultaneously and spontaneously joined from Unkown Gmail accounts<br>
> bombard the lists with AI slop, are recognised as community members, or<br>
> even identifiable human beings for that matter - leave much to be desired.<br>
> I do not think such remarks should be welcome on this platform, given the<br>
> quality of commenters and participants.<br>
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> Going by the community's Code of Conduct, and particularly on the expected<br>
> behaviour of participants, which include - treating others with politeness<br>
> and showing of respect; avoiding personal attacks or otherwise defamatory<br>
> or discriminatory comments, etc, every commenter/participant is expected to<br>
> adhere strictly as established to avoid unnecessary rivalry and chaos.<br>
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> By way of suggestion therefore, l am inclined to suggest that the tone of<br>
> remarks and commentaries be softened, to eschew any form of bitterness,<br>
> while attention should be on the issues at stake for consideration.<br>
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> I so suggest!<br>
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 16:22:06 +0200<br>
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 16:23:14 +0200<br>
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Subject: [rpd] The question is whether the content is Just Nuisance<br>
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Not at all. My exact terming was:<br>
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Participants using AI tools are encouraged to align<br>
> such tools with brevity and technical clarity<br>
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Nothing in this points to a "cloud of suspicion". On the contrary I am<br>
probably advancing that one really useful dynamic that AI introduces is the<br>
ability to more usefully summarise than humans do. AI tools allow the user<br>
to tune the responses, and brevity and technical clarity are better suited<br>
to this discussion. As somebody who writes "walls of text" I am very<br>
familiar with the adage (and use it often) "this letter would have been<br>
shorter but I didn't have the time".<br>
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What I do place suspicion on is automation aligned contributions where this<br>
is a nuisance. Unless you are a loveable Great Dane avoiding being a<br>
nuisance is usually expected. (that is for a chuckle -<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Nuisance" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Nuisance</a>)<br>
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From: *Tshepo Masuku* TshepoMasuku26 at <a href="http://hotmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">hotmail.com</a><br>
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> Dear Paul,<br>
> Your position may permit AI tools in principle, but it still places<br>
> AI-assisted participants under a separate cloud of suspicion.<br>
> Clarity, brevity, relevance, and reasonable posting volume should apply<br>
> equally to everyone, whether they use AI, translation software, templates,<br>
> an editor, or no assistance at all. A vague category such as "AI nuisance"<br>
> gives a small procedural circle too much discretion to decide which<br>
> contributions appear authentic enough to count.<br>
> The participant is the person who reviews, submits, and stands behind the<br>
> message. Unless there is evidence of impersonation or actual automated<br>
> flooding, the drafting method is private and irrelevant to consensus.<br>
> Moderate conduct, not technology. Otherwise, stylistic preference quietly<br>
> becomes a gatekeeping mandate.<br>
> Regards,<br>
> Tshepo<br>
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