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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Actually, one’s knowledge and experience is very relevant.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Running and safeguarding the internet landscape is a very practical thing. Something that those who do, do so on a daily basis.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">People who are commenting on the practicality of running the internet and routing protocols and who have no experience in it or are even involved in it, might well have some insights
to provide.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">HOWEVER, they then need to provide fact to base comments where the technical community who are practically involved in the process are saying otherwise.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Simply repeating the same narrative which goes against global trends and those that use it raise questions about their intentions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Nia Petronella <nonhlanhlapetronella85@gmail.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 20 July 2026 09:46<br>
<b>To:</b> ben.roberts@afrinic.net; rpd@afrinic.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] RPD Digest, Vol 222, Issue 81<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Ben,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Participants may introduce themselves if they choose, but an introduction should not become a condition for having an argument considered.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is an open policy forum, not a membership interview. Contributions should be assessed on their substance, not on how familiar the speaker is or how long they have been present.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nonhlanhla<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, 20 Jul 2026, 9:41 am <a href="mailto:ben.roberts@frinic.net">
ben.roberts@frinic.net</a> <<a href="mailto:ben.roberts@afrinic.net">ben.roberts@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Nonhlanhla,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Perhaps the new participants would like to introduce themselves, with some context of their new interest in IP address policy making?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Ben<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="color:black">Nia Petronella <<a href="mailto:nonhlanhlapetronella85@gmail.com" target="_blank">nonhlanhlapetronella85@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, 20 July 2026 at 09:38<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a> <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [rpd] RPD Digest, Vol 222, Issue 81<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear PDWG,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A pattern is becoming clear: familiar names are treated as authoritative, while newer participants are questioned, graded, or dismissed.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">That is gatekeeping, not consensus.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">An open process should test arguments, not reputations. Participation is evidence and objection; being well known does not create a mandate to decide whose voice counts.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nonhlanhla <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, 20 Jul 2026, 9:35 am <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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1. Subject: Re: [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal ? Hierarchical<br>
Names for New AS-SETs (AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02) (Thulisile Mazomba)<br>
2. Re: [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal ? Hierarchical Names<br>
for New AS-SETs (AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02) (Tshepo Masuku)<br>
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 07:24:43 +0000<br>
From: Thulisile Mazomba <<a href="mailto:219280444@mycput.ac.za" target="_blank">219280444@mycput.ac.za</a>><br>
To: Frank Habicht <<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz" target="_blank">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>>, "<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>"<br>
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Subject: [rpd] Subject: Re: [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal ?<br>
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Hi Frank,<br>
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An improvement is not automatically a justification for mandatory policy.<br>
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The question is whether the benefit is significant enough, proven enough, and proportionate enough to place in the registry?s compulsory layer. Saying ?it helps? does not answer that.<br>
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And no, raising those questions does not mean the objection came first. It means policy power should be tested before it is expanded.<br>
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I remain opposed.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Thulisile<br>
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From: Frank Habicht <<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz" target="_blank">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>><br>
Sent: Monday, 20 July 2026 06:36:00<br>
To: Thulisile Mazomba <<a href="mailto:219280444@mycput.ac.za" target="_blank">219280444@mycput.ac.za</a>>;
<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a> <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [rpd] [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal ? Hierarchical Names for New AS-SETs (AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02)<br>
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Hi,<br>
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On 7/19/2026 11:29 PM, Thulisile Mazomba wrote:<br>
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> Hi Frank,<br>
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> You appear to be treating your disagreement with an objection as proof<br>
> that no technical objection exists.<br>
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> The proposal prevents one naming collision. It does not establish the<br>
> correctness of the routing data attached to that name,<br>
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The proposal does not fix *all* problems. and it doesn't claim to do so.<br>
It creates an improvement.<br>
I don't agree that it is ok to object just because this proposal does<br>
not fix *all* problems.<br>
<br>
Do you agree it provides improvements?<br>
<br>
> nor prove that<br>
> mandatory registry control is the only proportionate remedy.<br>
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it's not intended to prove that.<br>
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><br>
> Those are technical and policy questions. Declaring them invalid does<br>
> not resolve them.<br>
They are not good reasons against the proposal.<br>
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But some people maybe want to be against the proposal first and then are<br>
looking for "questions".<br>
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Frank<br>
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 07:34:21 +0000<br>
From: Tshepo Masuku <<a href="mailto:TshepoMasuku26@hotmail.com" target="_blank">TshepoMasuku26@hotmail.com</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>, "<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz" target="_blank">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>"<br>
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Subject: Re: [rpd] [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal ? Hierarchical<br>
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Hi Frank,<br>
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You keep positioning yourself as the referee of which objections count.<br>
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That is not your role. Participants are allowed to question whether a useful change belongs in mandatory policy. Dismissing those concerns instead of answering them turns discussion into gatekeeping.<br>
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A policy room may debate. It does not grant any participant authority to police dissent.<br>
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I remain opposed.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Tshepo<br>
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