<div dir="auto">Hi Noah,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for clarifying that you were speaking for yourself.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I still don't think it's appropriate to ask certain participants to stop posting while everyone else continues. The discussion is still open, and unless the co-chairs decide otherwise, everyone has the same right to participate.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Whether someone uses a writing tool or not doesn't change the responsibility for what they write. What matters is whether the person stands behind their submission and whether the arguments can be answered.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If there are concerns about the volume of emails, that should apply equally to everyone. It shouldn't become a reason to ask one group of participants to step back.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Healthy policy discussions involve different views, and sometimes that naturally means more emails. The best response is to engage with the arguments rather than the people making them.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards, </div><div dir="auto">Fundiswa Nadia Maseko</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 20 Jul 2026, 13:54 , <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br>
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Dear Noah,<br>
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I respectfully disagree with your request.<br>
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The Policy Development Process is built on open participation.<br>
Contributions should be assessed on their technical and policy merits, not<br>
on assumptions about how they were prepared. Not every well-written or<br>
similar email is AI-generated.<br>
<br>
If there are concerns about a contribution, they should be addressed by<br>
responding to the arguments themselves rather than discouraging<br>
participation.<br>
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BR,<br>
Thandeka Mseleku<br>
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From: Nia Petronella <<a href="mailto:nonhlanhlapetronella85@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">nonhlanhlapetronella85@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Hi Noah,<br>
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You may disagree with the use of writing tools, but you cannot dictate<br>
which tools participants may or may not use. What matters is whether<br>
contributors stand behind their submissions and whether the arguments are<br>
relevant.<br>
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As for traffic, an active policy discussion will naturally generate<br>
messages. The answer is sensible moderation, threading, and consolidation<br>
where appropriate, not asking selected participants to stop speaking.<br>
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The co-chairs can manage the process. Individual participants do not have a<br>
mandate to silence others.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Nonhlanhla<br>
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> 2. Re: Request to Pause the AI generated posting (Noah)<br>
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> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 11:50:45 +0200<br>
> From: Hendrik Visage <<a href="mailto:hvisage@hevis.co.za" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">hvisage@hevis.co.za</a>><br>
> To: Taye Medoye <<a href="mailto:daniel.medoye@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">daniel.medoye@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal - Hierarchical<br>
> Names for New AS-SETs (AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02)<br>
> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:E98B1C66-C6FE-448E-B418-73340636A429@hevis.co.za" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">E98B1C66-C6FE-448E-B418-73340636A429@hevis.co.za</a>><br>
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> Dear Daniel,<br>
><br>
> Thank you for the considered note, and for recognising the rationale on<br>
> squatting and name overlaps as justifiable.<br>
><br>
> One clarification on process: this proposal is DRAFT02 at Last Call,<br>
> meaning the PDP discussion phases your message calls for have already<br>
> run their course ? Last Call is their conclusion. The earlier rounds<br>
> are in the list archive <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/</a> should<br>
> they be useful - Reference the first draft call on<br>
> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2026/014746.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2026/014746.html</a><br>
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> You write that you object "subject to alternative and more acceptable<br>
> rationale." Could you say what specific rationale would move you to<br>
> acceptance? Happy to address it directly.<br>
> Regards,<br>
> Hendrik<br>
><br>
> ---<br>
> Hendrik Visage<br>
> Director/Owner<br>
> HeViS.Co Systems t/a Envisage Cloud Solutions<br>
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> On 20 Jul 2026, at 11:08, Taye Medoye wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Whereas the Organization?s guideline on Policy Scope & Exclusions<br>
> > permits<br>
> > any desired alteration or amendment to an existing policy framework,<br>
> > it is<br>
> > required that such an exercise would require critical deliberations<br>
> > and<br>
> > discussion to ensure a convincing and realistic position for the<br>
> > proposed<br>
> > policy change or amendment to stand the test of time. This view also<br>
> > aligns<br>
> > with the policy statement which guarantees *that Number Resource<br>
> > management<br>
> > policies are developed through an open Policy Development Process<br>
> > (PDP).*<br>
> ><br>
> > In regard to the draft Policy proposal on bordering on the above<br>
> > captioned<br>
> > subject-matter, projected for discussions on the Forum, l have taken<br>
> > note<br>
> > of the justifiable rationale which forbids the unauthorized creation<br>
> > of<br>
> > names that could lead to either a flat or arbitrary name, and its<br>
> > consequences of potential squatting or accidental overlaps; and the<br>
> > fact<br>
> > that the requirement currently applies strictly to AS-SET objects to<br>
> > the<br>
> > exclusion of other IRR objects.<br>
> ><br>
> > I have equally taken note that the AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02 requires<br>
> > newly created AS-SETs to use hierarchical naming to avoid name<br>
> > collisions<br>
> > and improve route filtering, the fact remains that any alteration or<br>
> > amendment or new creation to existing policy framework would need to<br>
> > be<br>
> > subjected to extensive discussions as is the guideline on this forum.<br>
> ><br>
> > Therefore, l hereby object to a creation of names as is being proposed<br>
> > subject to alternative and more acceptable rationale that necessitates<br>
> > acceptance of the proposal.<br>
> > *Daniel Taye Medoye*<br>
><br>
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> From: Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">noah@neo.co.tz</a>><br>
> To: Phetulo Dhlamini <<a href="mailto:phetulodhlamini@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">phetulodhlamini@gmail.com</a>><br>
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> On Mon, 20 Jul 2026, 12:33?pm Phetulo Dhlamini, <<a href="mailto:phetulodhlamini@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">phetulodhlamini@gmail.com</a><br>
> ><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Hi Noah,<br>
> ><br>
> > You don?t speak for the whole PDWG . People disagreeing is not a reason<br>
> to<br>
> > silence people .<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> You are absolutely right. I dont speak for the PDWG...<br>
><br>
> I made assumption based on offline discussions I have had with an ecosystem<br>
> that participate in this WG which is really surprised by the coordinated AI<br>
> posting from your peers who I mentioned earlier.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> >> Can I kindly request that you pause your AI generated posts for now so<br>
> as<br>
> >> to reduce traffic on rpd list.<br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> Can i kindly request that you and your peers pause the endless posting for<br>
> now as we wait for feedback from the co-chairs.<br>
><br>
> Noah<br>
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> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 11:01:42 +0100<br>
> From: Bubacarr Sowe <<a href="mailto:buba@sowe.me" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">buba@sowe.me</a>><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal - Hierarchical<br>
> Names for New AS-SETs (AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02)<br>
> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:80a2afb9-07c4-4878-81ff-70f4603080e5@sowe.me" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">80a2afb9-07c4-4878-81ff-70f4603080e5@sowe.me</a>><br>
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> Dear PDWG,<br>
><br>
> I support the adoption of this draft.<br>
><br>
> Hierarchical AS-SETs? solve a problem. We need this and such a draft<br>
> should be adopted without difficulty. I don't see any benefit in not<br>
> adapting it.<br>
><br>
> Lets not resist for the sake of resisting but understand why<br>
> hierarchical AS-SETs are important. MANRS site has more on this here:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://manrs.org/2022/12/why-network-operators-should-use-hierarchical-as-sets/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://manrs.org/2022/12/why-network-operators-should-use-hierarchical-as-sets/</a>.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Please don't load this list with AI puke, its annoying, stupid and the<br>
> repetitiveness is an eye sore. You may enjoy your AI output? but that<br>
> may not be the case for most of us, that is for your Facebook post.<br>
><br>
> Mailing lists like this solves real problems and people make decision<br>
> base on the discussions but if we fill this list with some garbage from<br>
> ChatGTP or whatever, we will kill the spirit of the discussion, the<br>
> human engagement and the results that define our community and the<br>
> internet.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> BS<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 16/07/2026 23:09, Hytham El-Nakhal wrote:<br>
> > Dear PDWG,<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > The Policy Development Working Group (PDWG) Chairs have initiated a Last<br>
> Call for this proposal, following rough consensus at the AFRINIC-37 Public<br>
> Policy Meeting held in hybrid format in Nairobi, Kenya on 24 June 2026.<br>
> ><br>
> > * Proposal Name: Hierarchical Names for New AS-SETs<br>
> ><br>
> > * Proposal ID: AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02<br>
> ><br>
> > * Proposal URL:<br>
> <a href="https://www.afrinic.net/afpub-2026-asn-001-draft02.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/afpub-2026-asn-001-draft02.html</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Last Call closes on: July 31, 2026, at 23:59 UTC.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Please note the staff observation regarding implementation constraints:<br>
> due to the current prioritization of the MyAFRINIC v2 deployment, physical<br>
> database implementation of this policy will be scheduled once the MyAFRINIC<br>
> v2 deployment is concluded.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > As always, we kindly request that all participants adhere to the AFRINIC<br>
> Code of Conduct<<a href="https://www.afrinic.net/code" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/code</a>> to maintain a respectful<br>
> and professional environment on the mailing list.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Kind regards,<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Haitham el Nakhal<br>
> ><br>
> > AFRINIC PDWG Co-Chair<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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