<div dir="auto">Dear PDWG,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">A pattern is becoming clear: familiar names are treated as authoritative, while newer participants are questioned, graded, or dismissed.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That is gatekeeping, not consensus.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">An open process should test arguments, not reputations. Participation is evidence and objection; being well known does not create a mandate to decide whose voice counts.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards,</div><div dir="auto">Nonhlanhla </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 20 Jul 2026, 9:35 am <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Subject: Re: [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal ? Hierarchical<br>
Names for New AS-SETs (AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02) (Thulisile Mazomba)<br>
2. Re: [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal ? Hierarchical Names<br>
for New AS-SETs (AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02) (Tshepo Masuku)<br>
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 07:24:43 +0000<br>
From: Thulisile Mazomba <<a href="mailto:219280444@mycput.ac.za" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">219280444@mycput.ac.za</a>><br>
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Subject: [rpd] Subject: Re: [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal ?<br>
Hierarchical Names for New AS-SETs (AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02)<br>
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Hi Frank,<br>
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An improvement is not automatically a justification for mandatory policy.<br>
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The question is whether the benefit is significant enough, proven enough, and proportionate enough to place in the registry?s compulsory layer. Saying ?it helps? does not answer that.<br>
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And no, raising those questions does not mean the objection came first. It means policy power should be tested before it is expanded.<br>
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I remain opposed.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Thulisile<br>
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From: Frank Habicht <<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>><br>
Sent: Monday, 20 July 2026 06:36:00<br>
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Subject: Re: [rpd] [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal ? Hierarchical Names for New AS-SETs (AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02)<br>
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Hi,<br>
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On 7/19/2026 11:29 PM, Thulisile Mazomba wrote:<br>
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> Hi Frank,<br>
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> You appear to be treating your disagreement with an objection as proof<br>
> that no technical objection exists.<br>
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> The proposal prevents one naming collision. It does not establish the<br>
> correctness of the routing data attached to that name,<br>
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The proposal does not fix *all* problems. and it doesn't claim to do so.<br>
It creates an improvement.<br>
I don't agree that it is ok to object just because this proposal does<br>
not fix *all* problems.<br>
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Do you agree it provides improvements?<br>
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> nor prove that<br>
> mandatory registry control is the only proportionate remedy.<br>
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it's not intended to prove that.<br>
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> Those are technical and policy questions. Declaring them invalid does<br>
> not resolve them.<br>
They are not good reasons against the proposal.<br>
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But some people maybe want to be against the proposal first and then are<br>
looking for "questions".<br>
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Frank<br>
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 07:34:21 +0000<br>
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Subject: Re: [rpd] [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal ? Hierarchical<br>
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Hi Frank,<br>
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You keep positioning yourself as the referee of which objections count.<br>
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That is not your role. Participants are allowed to question whether a useful change belongs in mandatory policy. Dismissing those concerns instead of answering them turns discussion into gatekeeping.<br>
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A policy room may debate. It does not grant any participant authority to police dissent.<br>
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I remain opposed.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Tshepo<br>
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