<html aria-label="message body"><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Very appropriate blog post, I just added a comment.<div><div><br></div><div>I think some repeated emails, which interestingly are being sent to the wrong email (list owner) and even wrong subjects (mixing proposals), which means don’t even know how to use a mail exploder, and copy even the “procedure” not just the text, should understand better how the PDP works, and specially, how the chairs evaluate the consensus according to RFC7282.</div><div><br></div><div>In summary, objections (specially in the last call) are only valid if they can demonstrate that there is something really broken in the policy proposal that was not previously discovered during the discussion phase, not discussing if this proposal is appropriate for a RIR or not. A RIR must do whatever the community decides. There is not a “global out of scope” definition in the PDP. If the community decides to do something that creates harm for the AFRINIC (as an organization), then it is up to the board to not ratify it.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, in the last call there is no need to say “I support the proposal”. No more yes o no voices count for the consensus (neither for maintaining it). The last call is only about valid technical objections that were not raised before on the proposal text and can’t be refuted by the author(s) or community.</div><div><br></div><div>In the last call is also valid to correct grammar or typos, when it is clear that they don’t change the proposal, as that will invalidate the reached consensus.</div><div><br></div><div>All this comes from IETF, with many years of experience discussing even more complex proposals that whatever we usually have in any RIR.</div><div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
<div>Regards,<br>Jordi<br><br>@jordipalet<br></div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>El 18 jul 2026, a las 22:32, ben.roberts--- via RPD <rpd@afrinic.net> escribió:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="text-transform: none;">I felt it important to write this to explain how I learned the word “Astroturfing” …. I am all for newcomers into the policy development process, but please lets have real arguments, instead of machine generated co-ordinated "manufactured concencus"</span></div><div style="direction: ltr; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div style="direction: ltr; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div style="direction: ltr; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 120, 212);"><a href="https://benrobertskenya.medium.com/the-word-of-the-day-was-astroturfing-3d6e52135665" title="https://benrobertskenya.medium.com/the-word-of-the-day-was-astroturfing-3d6e52135665" data-outlook-id="98a21aac-add6-4fd5-8f27-e5576ae079a9" style="color: rgb(0, 120, 212);">https://benrobertskenya.medium.com/the-word-of-the-day-was-astroturfing-3d6e52135665</a></div><div style="direction: ltr; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div style="direction: ltr; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Cheers,</div><div style="font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="text-transform: none;">Ben</span></div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div id="ms-outlook-mobile-signature" dir="ltr"></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br>RPD@afrinic.net<br>https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div><br>**********************************************<br>
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