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<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>I'm looping back to this original email, not because I want to
answer here directly, but rather because I think it's appropriate
to consider the "bigger picture" of responses.</p>
<p>First and foremost, I've seen quite strong opinions from newly
registered @gmail.com addresses. I'd like to understand the
affiliation of these participants.</p>
<p>In my opinion there are a number of conflicting and not quite
obvious agendas in this, for this, and against this, policy
proposal - all of them with various commercial impacts for various
entities. Almost none of them to the benefit of the "end
consumer".<br>
</p>
<p>I personally believe the best thing is to retain the current
status quo *as it stands*, as this leaves operational decisions to
the various network operators rather than enforcing operational
issues by way of policy.</p>
<p>That said, I *personally* do not believe IPv4 should have a
future of any kind. Here I'm in agreement with Jordi that
networks should be deploying as IPv6-first.<br>
<br>
The *reality* however is that the world is predominantly IPv4 -
"everyone" is connected using IPv4, and I don't (at least not in
Africa) see that this is going to change any time soon. We've
been debating the reasons for this in the office the last week or
two, and I'm not going to bore you with the details, but our
opinion is that this is not because networks and techies don't
want to switch but because customers (yes, you read that right)
demands that we don't. When you deploy DNS for a customer - just
dare try and ask for AAAA details when only provided with A
details and see the response you get. Usually from people that
should *know better*.</p>
<p>When people run speedtest (which I understand measures only L7
throughput) and they get a lower value on IPv6 than on IPv4 ...
what's the next thing that happens? User logs into router, find
the "disable IPv6" button (or equivalent) *click*.<br>
<br>
Okay, so follow the (apparent) European standard of users may not
have access to their routers where they're forced to have IPv6 on
and can do nothing about it ... had a discussion the other day
with someone in Europe about this, "I get better throughput by
putting my own router behind that of my ISP and running IPv4 only
on my own network" - where there's v6 only ... well, I've yet to
hear/see about that end-network. Some core networks sure I've
heard of that.</p>
<p>As much as I hate to say this: IPv4 is going to be with us for a
while. And we should encourage deployment of IPv6, but I don't
think we can enforce that by way of policy as this is interfering
with network operational decisions/designs. I also strongly
disagree with apparent stances I've observed hinting that we
should make the soft landing more lax as that just drives up costs
for everyone much sooner and faster, and in a world where everyone
I communicate with are already complaining about the cost of stuff
I don't think that's fair either.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Jaco</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2026/05/28 10:05, Darwin Da Costa
wrote:<br>
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PDWG,</p>
<p dir="ltr"
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</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">We have
received a new draft policy proposal - IPv6 as a criteria in
IPv4 Soft Landing ID AFPUB-2026-v6-001-DRAFT01 from author
Jordi Palet Martinez. The proposal contents are published at:
</p>
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</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://afrinic.net/afpub-2026-v6-001-draft01">https://afrinic.net/afpub-2026-v6-001-draft01</a> </p>
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</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">We
encourage you to take some time to go through the proposal
contents and provide feedback as follows:</p>
<p dir="ltr"
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</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">a)Do you
support or oppose the proposal?</p>
<p dir="ltr"
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</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">b) If
you oppose the proposal, state your reasons?</p>
<p dir="ltr"
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</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">c) Is
there anything in the proposal that is not clear?</p>
<p dir="ltr"
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</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">d) What
changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
effective?</p>
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</p>
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<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">Regards,</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">Vincent
Ngundi & Darwin Da Costa</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">AFRINIC
PDWG Co-Chairs</p>
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