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<p>So IPv6 is slower???</p>
<p>From my home in Pretoria, where I have a 100Mbps FTTH connection
via Telkom/Axxess - I can easily test ping times to a server I
have at Teraco in Johannesburg. Running ping side-by-side, I see:-</p>
<p> Min Avg Max Mdev<br>
IPv6: 4.565/5.028/6.021/0.318 ms<br>
IPv4: 5.013/5.902/6.452/0.395 ms</p>
<p>Speedtest systems give me 105Mbps down and 95Mbps upload
speeds.... (to Durban???) - but do I really care? I'm more
interested in "how quick does that Website load" or "how fast are
responses to typing" - not "do I save a second in downloading a
1.2GB movie"</p>
<p>Anyway - my Interactive interaction to my servers at Teraco is
faster on IPv6 than on IPv4 - not that I really notice a 1ms
difference!</p>
<p>Oh - I strongly suggest if you are in the Internet industry then
you should generally use your ccTLD based email address - not
Gmail/Yahoo - etc.</p>
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<p>On 2026/07/08 09:01, Jaco Kroon via RPD wrote:</p>
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<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>I'm looping back to this original email, not because I want to
answer here directly, but rather because I think it's
appropriate to consider the "bigger picture" of responses.</p>
<p>First and foremost, I've seen quite strong opinions from newly
registered @gmail.com addresses. I'd like to understand the
affiliation of these participants.</p>
<p>In my opinion there are a number of conflicting and not quite
obvious agendas in this, for this, and against this, policy
proposal - all of them with various commercial impacts for
various entities. Almost none of them to the benefit of the
"end consumer".<br>
</p>
<p>I personally believe the best thing is to retain the current
status quo *as it stands*, as this leaves operational decisions
to the various network operators rather than enforcing
operational issues by way of policy.</p>
<p>That said, I *personally* do not believe IPv4 should have a
future of any kind. Here I'm in agreement with Jordi that
networks should be deploying as IPv6-first.<br>
<br>
The *reality* however is that the world is predominantly IPv4 -
"everyone" is connected using IPv4, and I don't (at least not in
Africa) see that this is going to change any time soon. We've
been debating the reasons for this in the office the last week
or two, and I'm not going to bore you with the details, but our
opinion is that this is not because networks and techies don't
want to switch but because customers (yes, you read that right)
demands that we don't. When you deploy DNS for a customer -
just dare try and ask for AAAA details when only provided with A
details and see the response you get. Usually from people that
should *know better*.</p>
<p>When people run speedtest (which I understand measures only L7
throughput) and they get a lower value on IPv6 than on IPv4 ...
what's the next thing that happens? User logs into router, find
the "disable IPv6" button (or equivalent) *click*.<br>
<br>
Okay, so follow the (apparent) European standard of users may
not have access to their routers where they're forced to have
IPv6 on and can do nothing about it ... had a discussion the
other day with someone in Europe about this, "I get better
throughput by putting my own router behind that of my ISP and
running IPv4 only on my own network" - where there's v6 only ...
well, I've yet to hear/see about that end-network. Some core
networks sure I've heard of that.</p>
<p>As much as I hate to say this: IPv4 is going to be with us for
a while. And we should encourage deployment of IPv6, but I
don't think we can enforce that by way of policy as this is
interfering with network operational decisions/designs. I also
strongly disagree with apparent stances I've observed hinting
that we should make the soft landing more lax as that just
drives up costs for everyone much sooner and faster, and in a
world where everyone I communicate with are already complaining
about the cost of stuff I don't think that's fair either.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Jaco</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2026/05/28 10:05, Darwin Da Costa
wrote:<br>
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PDWG,</p>
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<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">We have
received a new draft policy proposal - IPv6 as a criteria in
IPv4 Soft Landing ID AFPUB-2026-v6-001-DRAFT01 from author
Jordi Palet Martinez. The proposal contents are published
at: </p>
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href="https://afrinic.net/afpub-2026-v6-001-draft01"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://afrinic.net/afpub-2026-v6-001-draft01</a> </p>
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</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">We
encourage you to take some time to go through the proposal
contents and provide feedback as follows:</p>
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</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">a)Do you
support or oppose the proposal?</p>
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</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">b) If
you oppose the proposal, state your reasons?</p>
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</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">c) Is
there anything in the proposal that is not clear?</p>
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<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">d) What
changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
effective?</p>
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<p dir="ltr"
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<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">Vincent
Ngundi & Darwin Da Costa</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;">AFRINIC
PDWG Co-Chairs</p>
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