<div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto">Dear PDWG,<br style="font-size:inherit"><br style="font-size:inherit">While I appreciate the goal of promoting IPv6 adoption, I have concerns about making it a condition for IPv4 allocations under Soft Landing. IPv4 is still the operating foundation for many in this region. Adding a mandate compounds cost and complexity without proven benefit, turning a resource policy into a migration mandate. The cost and pressure would fall on ordinary operators, while the main winners are likely registry governance bodies and large equipment vendors. I ask the PDWG to examine these consequences carefully.</div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto">Regards,</div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto">Theresa</div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 9:23 AM <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. IPv6 as a criteria in IPv4 Soft Landing<br>
AFPUB-2026-v6-001-DRAFT01. (Darwin Da Costa)<br>
2. Re: Require newly created AS-SETs to have hierarchical names<br>
AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT01. (Jaco Kroon)<br>
3. AFRINIC Policy Compliance Dashboard ID<br>
AFPUB-2026-GEN-002-DRAFT01. (Darwin Da Costa)<br>
4. Re: IPv6 as a criteria in IPv4 Soft Landing<br>
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Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 10:05:07 +0200<br>
From: Darwin Da Costa <<a href="mailto:dacostadarwin@gmail.com" target="_blank">dacostadarwin@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
Subject: [rpd] IPv6 as a criteria in IPv4 Soft Landing<br>
AFPUB-2026-v6-001-DRAFT01.<br>
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Dear PDWG,<br>
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We have received a new draft policy proposal - IPv6 as a criteria in IPv4 Soft Landing ID AFPUB-2026-v6-001-DRAFT01 from author Jordi Palet Martinez. The proposal contents are published at: <br>
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<a href="https://afrinic.net/afpub-2026-v6-001-draft01" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/afpub-2026-v6-001-draft01</a> <br>
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We encourage you to take some time to go through the proposal contents and provide feedback as follows:<br>
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a)Do you support or oppose the proposal?<br>
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b) If you oppose the proposal, state your reasons?<br>
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c) Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?<br>
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d) What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?<br>
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Vincent Ngundi & Darwin Da Costa<br>
AFRINIC PDWG Co-Chairs<br>
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Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 10:07:01 +0200<br>
From: Jaco Kroon <<a href="mailto:jaco@uls.co.za" target="_blank">jaco@uls.co.za</a>><br>
To: James Bensley <james@inter.link>, "<a href="mailto:dacostadarwin@gmail.com" target="_blank">dacostadarwin@gmail.com</a>"<br>
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Subject: Re: [rpd] Require newly created AS-SETs to have hierarchical<br>
names AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT01.<br>
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Hi James,<br>
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On 2026/05/28 09:54, James Bensley wrote:<br>
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> Hi Jaco,<br>
><br>
> Thank you for the support and your feedback.<br>
><br>
> I wrote the original proposal. Regarding this comment:<br>
><br>
> "The only thing that I found weird is that the second element has to be a name, why would "ASnum:ASnum2:AS-name" not be acceptable?"<br>
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> If you have a use case for that, then that could be added to the proposal. Do you have a use case/requirement for this? I think this usage is very rare, but if you have this use case, please speak up :)<br>
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It's a hierarchy right, so what if I want to refer my customers by their <br>
AS numbers?<br>
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Eg, ASyyyy:ASxxxx:AS-set<br>
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It's an arbitrary and in my opinion unneeded restriction which can be <br>
removed.? The only restriction is that the first component has to be <br>
ASnum where you have control over AS num.? The rest can be left to the <br>
discretion of the ASnum admin surely?<br>
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So just drop bullet three entirely.<br>
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> Regarding this comment:<br>
><br>
> "The purpose/function of "3. Other set types such as route sets are excluded." is unclear - everything else speaks specifically to AS-SET so why is this mention required?"<br>
><br>
> Because route-sets can also support hierarchical names and in the past people have had the thought "well if we're making this change for AS-SETs let's also making it for Route-Sets whilst we're here" - but route-sets are extremely rarely used today and this just adds scope which I think isn't needed. So it was just about trying to stop that scope creep.<br>
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I hear you.<br>
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7.8 as as whole specifically states "AS-SET" - not "Set Types", and <br>
point 1 also makes it clears this refers specifically to AS-SET, which <br>
means point 3 can be dropped without changing the intent/meaning of 7.8 <br>
as a whole.<br>
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Point 4 also really adds no value, that's an operational issue, not a <br>
policy issue.? Definitely a valid point and something to be aware but <br>
still operational, not policy.<br>
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Exceptions to the policy may need to be permitted on a case by case <br>
basis *if and only if* a non-hierarchical AS-SET has been accidentally <br>
deleted to allow recreation.? IMHO these should require motivation to <br>
have them restored from where they can then be edited again as per point 6.<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
Jaco<br>
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> With kind regards,<br>
> James Bensley (he/him)<br>
><br>
> ________________________________________<br>
> From: Jaco Kroon <<a href="mailto:jaco@uls.co.za" target="_blank">jaco@uls.co.za</a>><br>
> Sent: 21 May 2026 14:06<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:dacostadarwin@gmail.com" target="_blank">dacostadarwin@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:dacostadarwin@gmail.com" target="_blank">dacostadarwin@gmail.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a> <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Require newly created AS-SETs to have hierarchical names AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT01.<br>
><br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> Definitely in support.<br>
><br>
> The only thing that I found weird is that the second element has to be a<br>
> name, why would "ASnum:ASnum2:AS-name" not be acceptable?<br>
><br>
> The purpose/function of "3. Other set types such as route sets are<br>
> excluded." is unclear - everything else speaks specifically to AS-SET so<br>
> why is this mention required?<br>
><br>
> Kind regards,<br>
> Jaco<br>
><br>
> On 2026/05/20 19:37, <a href="mailto:dacostadarwin@gmail.com" target="_blank">dacostadarwin@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Dear PDWG,<br>
>><br>
>> We have received a new draft policy proposal - Require newly created AS-SETs to have hierarchical names, ID AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT01 from author James Bensley.<br>
>><br>
>> The proposal contents are published at:<br>
>> <a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/afpub-2026-asn-001-draft01" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/afpub-2026-asn-001-draft01</a><br>
>><br>
>> We encourage you to take some time to go through the proposal contents and provide feedback as follows:<br>
>><br>
>> a) Do you support or oppose the proposal?<br>
>><br>
>> b) If you oppose the proposal, state your reasons?<br>
>><br>
>> c) Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?<br>
>><br>
>> d) What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?<br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>> Vincent Ngundi & Darwin Da Costa<br>
>> AFRINIC PDWG Co-Chairs<br>
>><br>
>><br>
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Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 10:07:31 +0200<br>
From: Darwin Da Costa <<a href="mailto:dacostadarwin@gmail.com" target="_blank">dacostadarwin@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
Subject: [rpd] AFRINIC Policy Compliance Dashboard ID<br>
AFPUB-2026-GEN-002-DRAFT01.<br>
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Dear PDWG,<br>
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We have received a new draft policy proposal - AFRINIC Policy Compliance Dashboard ID AFPUB-2026-GEN-002-DRAFT01 from author Jordi Palet Martinez. The proposal contents are published at: <br>
<br>
<a href="https://afrinic.net/afpub-2026-gen-002-draft01" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/afpub-2026-gen-002-draft01</a> <br>
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We encourage you to take some time to go through the proposal contents and provide feedback as follows:<br>
<br>
a) Do you support or oppose the proposal?<br>
<br>
b) If you oppose the proposal, state your reasons?<br>
<br>
c) Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?<br>
<br>
d) What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Vincent Ngundi & Darwin Da Costa<br>
AFRINIC PDWG Co-Chairs<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 09:22:45 +0100<br>
From: Gbemisola Esho <<a href="mailto:gbemiadepojuesho@gmail.com" target="_blank">gbemiadepojuesho@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Darwin Da Costa <<a href="mailto:dacostadarwin@gmail.com" target="_blank">dacostadarwin@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: rpd <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] IPv6 as a criteria in IPv4 Soft Landing<br>
AFPUB-2026-v6-001-DRAFT01.<br>
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Acknowledged with thanks<br>
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Regards,<br>
Gbemisola Esho<br>
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On Thu, 28 May 2026, 09:08 Darwin Da Costa, <<a href="mailto:dacostadarwin@gmail.com" target="_blank">dacostadarwin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Dear PDWG,<br>
><br>
><br>
> We have received a new draft policy proposal - IPv6 as a criteria in IPv4<br>
> Soft Landing ID AFPUB-2026-v6-001-DRAFT01 from author Jordi Palet Martinez.<br>
> The proposal contents are published at:<br>
><br>
><br>
> <a href="https://afrinic.net/afpub-2026-v6-001-draft01" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/afpub-2026-v6-001-draft01</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> We encourage you to take some time to go through the proposal contents and<br>
> provide feedback as follows:<br>
><br>
><br>
> a)Do you support or oppose the proposal?<br>
><br>
><br>
> b) If you oppose the proposal, state your reasons?<br>
><br>
><br>
> c) Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?<br>
><br>
><br>
> d) What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Vincent Ngundi & Darwin Da Costa<br>
><br>
> AFRINIC PDWG Co-Chairs<br>
><br>
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