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<p>Hi Jordi,</p>
<p>Fully agree with everything you say, related proposal.</p>
<p>Your proposal as is, is good IMHO.</p>
<p>I suspect it then goes to option (1) below, so if the community
wants option (2) below someone will have to write the policy
proposal for that. Doesn't affect me and I'd love to have IPv4
for a bit longer for all the practical reasons you stated. That
said I do encourage as much IPv6 adoption as I can.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Jaco</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2026/05/21 16:19, jordi.palet--- via
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Hi Jaco,
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<div>Tks for the inputs.</div>
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<div>I understand your point, and ideally I will be also for “stop
completely” providing IPv4 addresses, but this is impossible
while you can do transfers, even if they may happen under the
table, so not a realistic position.</div>
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<div>In other regions, only newcomers can get new IPv4 addresses,
but the difference is that in other regions, they don’t have
anymore any space, so the situation with Afrinic is quite
different.</div>
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<div>I think we should work in a better use of the recovered
space, or learning from what happened in other regions with
policies similar to “soft landing”, have a much better policy,
but as said, I don’t think this will reach consensus in a short
time, so meanwhile, let’s clear contradictions in the CPM.</div>
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<div>Also note that in Africa, the penetration of Internet is
still low, unless it changed a lot in the last few years,
compared to other regions, so having the recovered space in the
“soft landing” space, seems more appropriate. Note also that the
other proposal also allows to use some of this “extra” IPv4
recovered space.</div>
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<div>I think overall, this way to approach what do to with the
recovered space helps Africa to improve Internet penetration
tied to IPv6 deployment.</div>
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<div>Regards,<br>
Jordi<br>
<br>
@jordipalet<br>
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<div>El 21 may 2026, a las 15:26, Jaco Kroon
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jaco@uls.co.za"><jaco@uls.co.za></a> escribió:</div>
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<p>Hi Jordi,</p>
<p>Thanks for raising this.<br>
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To be clear: I'm mostly neutral on this. To a degree
I'm of the opinion that the remaining space should
just go away so that IPv4 can now go the way of the
dodo and those that have not yet deployed IPv6 can
remain behind in an eventually disconnected world of
their own. That said ... "no IPv4 space" makes you
the "currently disconnected from reality" service
provider - whilst in most cases is possible to
overcome by providing services on IPv6-only and using
a service like Cloudflare to bridge from IPv4 to IPv6
- but that's not always possible for all services.
From the latter perspective I'm in support of what
you're saying, but I do thing we're just pro-longing
our pain.</p>
<p>I do thing we also need to urgently address if
possible is a policy around how to handle space that's
recovered that were leased to AFRINIC members (or
entities that could legitimately become AFRINIC
members) by the entity from where the space is
recovered.<br>
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I see two options:<br>
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1. Lose it. For some of those entities this could be
a death stroke.<br>
2. If the space could be justified as per existing
AFRINIC policies, the space (or the portion that can
be justified) gets assigned to the AFRINIC member.</p>
<p>This is aimed towards not penalising downstream
customers (presumably innocent) of entities that
engaged in policy violating behaviour (not speaking
towards guilt/not - that's for others to determine,
but it doesn't hurt to prepare for space recovery in
the case that that happens).<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
Jaco</p>
<p> On 2026/05/21 14:45, jordi.palet--- via RPD wrote:</p>
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Hi all,
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<div>I just want to make a short intro to this
proposal, aiming to create, hopefully, some
discussion.</div>
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<div>This proposal aims to resolve in a single step,
most of the conflicts that have been raised by the
staff and summarized here:</div>
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<div>Those conflicts are because the soft landing
policy takes over some of the articles in other
parts of the CPM.</div>
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<div>This proposal address that by basically stating
that in case of conflict, soft-landing articles will
have higher priority and actually removing 3
articles and rewording one more, to avoid confusion
for anyone reading the CPM.</div>
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<div>This is the actual way the staff is doing for any
request for IPv4 addresses, so basically, the
proposal doesn’t imply changes in the actual
evaluation process, just ensuring that there are no
misinterpretations or confusions.</div>
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<div>Please, let me know if you feel that something is
broken or can be improved or whatever.</div>
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<div>Note that this proposal doesn’t prevent the
community to improve the soft-landing policy, for
example regarding what do to with the IPv4 addresses
being recovered, but reaching consensus in changes
to soft landing, probably can take longer discussion
cycles.</div>
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<div>Tks!</div>
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<div>Regards,<br>
Jordi<br>
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@jordipalet<br>
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<div>Dear PDWG,<br>
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We have received a new draft policy proposal
- Soft Landing, Recovered Space and
Priority, ID AFPUB-2026-IPv4-001-DRAFT01
from author Jordi Palet Martinez. The
proposal contents are published at: <br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/afpub-2026-ipv4-001-draft01"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/afpub-2026-ipv4-001-draft01</a><br>
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We encourage you to take some time to go
through the proposal contents and provide
feedback as follows: <br>
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a) Do you support or oppose the proposal?<br>
b) If you oppose the proposal, state your
reasons?<br>
c) Is there anything in the proposal that is
not clear?<br>
d) What changes could be made to this
proposal to make it more effective?<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Vincent Ngundi & Darwin Da Costa<br>
AFRINIC PDWG Co-Chairs.<br>
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