<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I’m not convinced that the rest of the world should wait for them to catch up.<div><br></div><div>You pose it as a situation where they would be held up by lack of IPv4 resources.</div><div><br></div><div>I pose it as a situation where the rest of Africa is being held up waiting for them to make use of those resources as they are denied to the rest of Africa.</div><div><br></div><div>I guess it’s a matter of perspective.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 15, 2025, at 03:51, ben.roberts@afrinic.net wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Owen,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">South Africa has approx 850 AS Numbers with approx 64 million population which is 0.00001328125 members per capita of population. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">The whole of Africa has population of say 1.5 Billion. If the continental average were to catch up with South Africa, arguably the most digitally advanced African Nation then one can apply that average x the pan African population to get<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">0.00001328125 x 1.5 Billion = 19,921 members<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">So an increase from 2400 number holding resource members to 19,921, so yes exactly about 17,000 extra members are possible. Each one holding AS number, a nominal IPv4 range, plus a bigger IPv6 range.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">While some African nations are up to 15 to 20 years behind South Africa in terms of digital development, they should not be held back in catch up by availability of IP resources don’t you think?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Ben<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Owen DeLong via RPD <rpd@afrinic.net><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>15 October 2025 11:55<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Noah <noah@neo.co.tz><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RPD <rpd@afrinic.net><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [rpd] Questions about IP Allocation rate<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Do you really expect 17,000+ legitimate new entrants in the next X years (where X is the number of years you expect before catering to laggards is no longer a requirement) in the AFRINIC service area? I think that’s a pretty gross overestimate. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Owen<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">On Oct 15, 2025, at 00:39, Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite"><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"></span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">On Wed, 15 Oct 2025, 9:42<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span>am jordi.palet--- via RPD, <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: none; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" type="cite"><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Is not for the peering (it is not needed even for IXPs, we can use IPv6-only), is for the NAT64.<o:p></o:p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">RFC6146 is widely supported by most vendors today and a bare minimum of /24 v4 space for translators is foresight grounded on reality of v4/v6 co-existance.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">More so for new entrants who must not be succummed to IPv$ brokers/leasers who stockpile to monetize in future based on scarcity.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Noah<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Noah<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>