<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">I’m making no such assumption. On the other hand, reality is that at some point, we will not have IPv4 for new entrants. The sooner that starts happening so people start adjusting to that reality, the less prolonged pain for everyone else dealing with these silly hybrid solutions and stupid NAT tricks.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Delaying the inevitable is merely prolonging the pain and rewarding failure to act at this point. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Owen</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 14, 2025, at 02:56, ben.roberts--- via RPD <rpd@afrinic.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style>@font-face { font-family: "Cambria Math"; }
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hendrik,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">While it is important to be considering full IPv6 roll outs… We certainly cant be discounting the IPv4 exhaustion conversation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">You are probably assuming that all the players are already in the game. If one is a new startup ISP or local cloud provider, is that something you can easily go about with only IPV6 resources? New entrants, whether they be commercial ISPs, enterprises, government DPI projects, are going to need to start off with some IPV4 allocations for sure. Africa’s management of the remaining V4 pool is a vital policy consideration. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ben<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Hendrik Visage <hvisage@hevis.co.za> <br><b>Sent:</b> 14 October 2025 11:21<br><b>To:</b> RPD <rpd@afrinic.net><br><b>Subject:</b> [rpd] Pushing IPv6 ? Re: Questions about IP Allocation rate<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Question: <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> Shouldn’t we rather consider pushing IPv6 deployment assistance across Africa? ie. let the rest of the IPv4 go ASAP without much resistance instead of making this a begging/pleading/fighting game?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">ARIN (North America) & RIPE (Europe) serviced areas are way ahead of IPv6 roll outs, ‘cause they don’t have any left, and looking at AfriNIC services countries, we are still have an abundance of IPv4, so IPv6 percentage roll outs are very low, and rathe we should be pushing to mirror the IPv6 percentage rollout and usage rather than fighting over the few remaining IPv4s if we want to grow digital rollouts.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps even moving to a state of: “You can have IPv6, once you’ve proven a complete IPv6 rollout can you get anymore IPv4"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">---<br>Hendrik Visage<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black">Instant messaging: <a href="https://t.me/hvisage">https://t.me/hvisage</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 13 Oct 2025, at 16:43, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:aa@alstonnetworks.net">aa@alstonnetworks.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi All, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I was wondering if there were updated statistics for the amount of space allocated in the last 3 years. In addition to this information regarding exactly how much free space is still available in the IPv4 unallocated pool (excluding reservations)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I ask this because depending on the allocation rate - we may wish to consider revising the soft-landing policy that currently reserves a /12 worth of ipv4 space for "future uses, as yet unforeseen".<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I point out that the soft landing policy was ratified in 2011, and if we still, after 14 years, have not been able to articulate a clear reason for such a large reservation, I think it's time we look at most, if not all, of that /12 back into the main unallocated pool that can be allocated for African resource holders that actually need it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Amongst other reasons, sitting with unallocated, unannounced, reserved space like this leaves the space vulnerable to hijacking and malicious use or even potential theft.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Andrew<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p>---<o:p></o:p></p><p>Hendrik Visage<o:p></o:p></p><p><a href="mailto:hvisage@hevis.co.za">hvisage@hevis.co.za</a><o:p></o:p></p><p><br>HeViS.Co Systems Pty Ltd<o:p></o:p></p><p><a href="https://www.envisage.co.za">https://www.envisage.co.za</a><o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>RPD mailing list</span><br><span>RPD@afrinic.net</span><br><span>https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>