<div dir="auto"><div><div><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 14 Oct 2025, 11:31 am Hendrik Visage, <<a href="mailto:hvisage@hevis.co.za">hvisage@hevis.co.za</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div> Shouldn’t we rather consider pushing IPv6 deployment assistance across Africa?</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="line-break:after-white-space"><div> ie. let the rest of the IPv4 go ASAP without much resistance.</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Let it go where? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="line-break:after-white-space">
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<div>ARIN (North America) & RIPE (Europe) serviced areas are way ahead of IPv6 roll outs, ‘cause they don’t have any left, </div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Yes true but the operate dual-stack networks. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Have the global north networks returned the IPv4 address space back to ARIN and RIPE since its legacy to them and most of them are now IPv6 ready?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="line-break:after-white-space"><div>and looking at AfriNIC services countries, we are still have an abundance of IPv4, </div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We have nothing and we never had anything. But with even the little IPv4 that we have...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="line-break:after-white-space"><div>so IPv6 percentage roll outs are very low,</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is needed to aid with IPv6 transition...</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="line-break:after-white-space"><div> </div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="line-break:after-white-space"><div>and rathe
we should be pushing to mirror the IPv6 percentage rollout and usage rather than fighting over the few remaining IPv4s if we want to grow digital rollouts.</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Show me who in ARIN or RIPE returned their IPv4 address allocations back to the inventory after going full IPv6.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="line-break:after-white-space">
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<div>Perhaps even moving to a state of: “You can have IPv6, once you’ve proven a complete IPv6 rollout can you get anymore IPv4"</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Good idea for those already with IPv4 space. Let us work out a policy around the above statement which I find reasonable.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="line-break:after-white-space">
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<div>I was wondering if there were updated statistics for the amount of space allocated in the last 3 years. In addition to this information regarding exactly how much free space is still available in the IPv4 unallocated pool (excluding reservations)</div>
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<div>I ask this because depending on the allocation rate - we may wish to consider revising the soft-landing policy that currently reserves a /12 worth of ipv4 space for "future uses, as yet unforeseen".</div>
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<div>I point out that the soft landing policy was ratified in 2011, and if we still, after 14 years, have not been able to articulate a clear reason for such a large reservation, I think it's time we look at most, if not all, of that /12 back into the main
unallocated pool that can be allocated for African resource holders that actually need it.</div>
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<div>Amongst other reasons, sitting with unallocated, unannounced, reserved space like this leaves the space vulnerable to hijacking and malicious use or even potential theft.</div>
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