<html aria-label="message body"><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I don’t think membership status has anything to do with PDP.<div><br></div><div>Ideally PDP is contributed by many members actively participating, but I think this is not the case (not only in Afrinic, also in general in other RIRs).</div><div><br></div><div>Even if I personally disagree with the transfer policy that got consensus declared, I think it should be ratified immediately, because implementation takes many months (as experienced by other RIRs). In that period, we still have the chance to improve it, if the community believe that needs to be done. Then small implementation changes can often be done very quickly.</div><div><br></div><div>This is the same for any policy that reached consensus, even for the complete policy manual. It is a “live law”, the community has the chance to*always* change or improve things. What it will be useless and long time consuming is when something that reached consensus (and had a positive impact analisys) is returned to the list to re-start again the full process. Again, if something can be improved, let’s do it based on the already approved text, not from scracth.</div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
<div>Regards,<br>Jordi<br><br>@jordipalet<br><br></div>
</div>
<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>El 9 oct 2025, a las 6:42, Jaco Kroon <jaco@uls.co.za> escribió:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<div><p>Hi,<br>
</p><p>That policy specifically may be one we may want to hold off until
current membership status has been sorted out first. Or at least
the policy should be amended to compensate for what we've learned
in the last five years.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Jaco<br>
<br>
On 2025/10/09 02:21, Emmanuel Vitus wrote:</p>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CAGKde+0my+BvdDuuj8xaRLjyizhc92boD-A9rND38S9n7=MUyA@mail.gmail.com">
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Good to see the list active
again. Hopefully we can keep the energy focused this time
and not fall back into the long circular debates we had in
the past.</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">It could help to have a
simple matrix showing which proposals can be ratified
quickly with little or no cost and which ones may need
more time or legal review. A timeline would also be useful
to follow progress taking into account the Board comments
and the steps before ratification.</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">The transfer policy should
move forward as soon as possible, my 2cents.</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Cheers! </span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">
<br style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">- Emmanuel</span></font></div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le jeu. 9 oct. 2025 à 00:18,
jordi.palet--- via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
a écrit :<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>Hi Caleb,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The proposals that I refer:</div>
<div>1) Already reached consensus.</div>
<div>2) Already were sent to the board with the relevant
reports.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So from that perspective, with “basically
administrative” I mean that there is not “a lot of other”
work to be done in the proposals. Of course, the board
should make sure that the proposals aren’t against the
company, but the legal implications, operational
feasibility, alignment with the bylaws, etc., was already
done because all this is part of the analysis impact that
was prepared *before* declaring consensus. This is just
the way the PDP works, so we aren’t changing anything.</div>
<div><br id="m_960669498772390331lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage">
<div>
<div>Saludos,<br>
Jordi<br>
<br>
@jordipalet<br>
<br>
</div>
</div>
<div><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>El 8 oct 2025, a las 18:07, Caleb Ogundele <<a href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">muyiwacaleb@gmail.com</a>>
escribió:</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Hi Jordi and All,<br>
<br>
I'm happy this list is becoming more active, and
it is a good thing. <br>
Responding to @Jordi, I must respectfully differ
with Jordi on point one. While I share the
desire to see pending proposals move forward, I
don't believe board ratification should be
characterized as "basically an administrative
task that should not take too much time."</div>
<div><p>Board ratification is a critical governance
checkpoint where proposals are reviewed for
legal implications, operational feasibility,
and alignment with AFRINIC's mission and
bylaws. Given that we're emerging from three
years of limited functionality as a community,
I believe the Community and the Board deserve
adequate time to properly review and ratify
proposals, especially those that may have
significant operational or financial
implications for AFRINIC and its members.
Times have changed in the last three years and
community members have different views on
certain policies. Rushing this process could
lead to oversights that create problems down
the line. Quality should take precedence over
speed. </p>
</div>
<div><b>Caleb Ogundele</b><br>
<i>Speaking for myself as a community member<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</i></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 8,
2025 at 6:34 PM jordi.palet--- via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>HI Seun, all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Fully agree with your view. I will add
2 more points:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1) There are several policy proposals
that reached consensus and are “paused”
just waiting for the board ratification. I
understand the board will be very busy,
but the ratification is basically an
administrative task that should not take
too much time. So please, consider doing
so ASAP, so the implementation can also be
initiated, as I think in some cases it may
take long time.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>2) Some of use may need to plan ahead,
and buy our flights as early as possible
(too close to the meeting become extremely
expensive when traveling from abroad) for
the next PPM, so it will be good to
announce firm dates and location as soon
as possible.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Those that have policy proposals still
under discussion really need to have a
status summary and specially understand if
the actual co-chairs will continue as
suggested, so we can restart our work and
encourage discussions in the community.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Finally, I don’t think we need a
“complete modernization of the policy
manual”, but instead concentrate in review
the existing discussion and decide if we
need to focus on any new topic at the time
being.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Tks!</div>
<div><br id="m_960669498772390331m_-6816761155382936492lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage">
<div>
<div>Saludos,<br>
Jordi<br>
<br>
@jordipalet<br>
<br>
</div>
</div>
<div><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>El 8 oct 2025, a las 17:02, Seun
Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>>
escribió:</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir="auto">
<div>Hello Ben, RPD </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">It's good that
this discussion is starting up.
I don't think anything
revolutionary with the rpd needs
to happen from the board level
at this time. The rpd itself
should evolve through policies
and while the board indeed has
the ability to write a policy
when required and in
certain circumstances i do think
that it isn't necessary at this
time. I would suggest the
following:</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">1. Current
Co-Chairs continue in their role
towards the next Public Policy
Meeting (PPM) and they should
coordinate on the things Sami
mentioned with regards to
authors representing their
proposal and new proposals as
applicable.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">2. We usually hold
2 PPMs every year 1 during the
AIS and another at the second
AFRINIC pubic meeting in the
year, it will be good for the
Board to provide the rpd with
some information on how soon
that can happen.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">3. With the recent
board election, staff does have
significant experience on
conducting credible and
verifiable election. The Board
should leverage on that to
organise election of Co-Chairs
at the next ppm inline with the
CPM. The 2 seats should be
filled in a staggered manner</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Regards</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>----<br>
Sent from my mobile<br>
kindly excuse typos </div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
Wed, 8 Oct 2025, 6:00 pm Ben
Roberts - AfriNIC via RPD, <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto">Sami,
<div>Thanks for your mail and
we appreciate your
contributions to PWDG to
date and are happy to see
you are keen to start it up
again. I am replying as a
community member, though I
am also a board member of
AfriNIC. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I feel that as we restart
the PWDG process, what is
absolutely key is that we
get <b>much more</b>
diversity in that process.
My question back to you is
to ask, how do we invigorate
the process to involve many
more key experts in the
digital economy of Africa?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Kind regards</div>
<div>Ben</div>
<div><br id="m_960669498772390331m_-6816761155382936492m_-927404568268052237m_-1063682855657608924lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature">
<div dir="ltr">Sent from my
iPhone</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<blockquote type="cite">On
6 Oct 2025, at 08:08,
Sami Salih via Board
<<a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">board@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<b>Dear PDWG
Community,</b></div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<b><br>
</b></div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
I hope this message
finds you well. </div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
I would like to take
this opportunity to
congratulate you all
on the successful
election of the
AFRINIC Board and the
resumption of its
proper functioning.
This milestone marks
an important step
toward restoring
stability, trust, and
continuity in
AFRINIC’s role as the
Regional Internet
Registry for Africa.
With governance now
back on track, it is
the right moment to
resume the Policy
Development Process
(PDP) and address the
policy gaps that have
accumulated during the
past three years of
interruption.</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
As you are aware, over
the past three years
AFRINIC has gone
through a period of
limited functionality,
and the Policy
Development Process
(PDP) has been
effectively paused.
During this time, the
global Internet number
community has
continued to evolve,
with significant
policy updates taking
place across the other
RIRs. This has created
a widening gap between
AFRINIC’s Consolidated
Policy Manual (CPM)
and those of our
sister RIRs.</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
In order to restore
the momentum of policy
development in our
region and to ensure
that AFRINIC’s policy
environment remains
relevant, consistent,
and globally aligned,
I would like to
highlight the
following areas where
action is needed:</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<b>Previous PDWG
Co-Chairs</b></div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
While their terms have
now ended, we request
that the most recent
PDWG Co-Chairs prepare
a short report
summarizing the last
set of policy
proposals that were
under discussion
before the process
stalled. We further
encourage the original
authors of those
drafts to resubmit
them for renewed
community review, or
alternatively, invite
any community member
to take initiative to
re-submit and champion
them.</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<b>AFRINIC Board</b></div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
We call on the Board
to formally publish a
community call for
modernizing the
AFRINIC Policy Manual.
This would include
identifying and
prioritizing areas
where policy alignment
with other RIRs is
needed (e.g., IPv4
transfer frameworks,
IPv6 allocation
criteria, RPKI
adoption,
Whois/privacy reforms,
and
membership/resource
governance models).
Such a call would help
set a clear direction
and provide legitimacy
to the process of
catching up with
global best practices.</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<b>PDWG Community</b></div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
Most importantly, we
urge all community
members to actively
re-engage in the PDP
by discussing any
submitted proposals,
providing constructive
feedback, and
enriching the drafts
with insights drawn
from operational
experience. The
strength of AFRINIC’s
PDP has always been
rooted in the
diversity and
expertise of its
community, and your
participation will be
crucial in shaping the
future of Internet
number resource
management in our
region.</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
This is a collective
responsibility, and
now is the right
moment to re-energize
our PDP and
demonstrate the
resilience of the
AFRINIC community.</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
With Regards.</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<b>Sami Salih</b>, PhD
(ICT), PMP®</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
Assistant Professor,
Sudan University of
Science and Technology</div>
<div dir="auto" style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
Tel: (249) 122045707</div>
<span>_______________________________________________</span><br>
<span>Board mailing list
-- <a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">board@afrinic.net</a></span><br>
<span>To unsubscribe
send an email to <a href="mailto:board-leave@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">board-leave@afrinic.net</a></span><br>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br>
RPD mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
</blockquote>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br>
RPD mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
</div>
<br>
**********************************************<br>
IPv4 is over<br>
Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br>
<a href="http://www.theipv6company.com/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
The IPv6 Company<br>
<br>
This electronic message contains information
which may be privileged or confidential. The
information is intended to be for the
exclusive use of the individual(s) named
above and further non-explicilty authorized
disclosure, copying, distribution or use of
the contents of this information, even if
partially, including attached files, is
strictly prohibited and will be considered a
criminal offense. If you are not the
intended recipient be aware that any
disclosure, copying, distribution or use of
the contents of this information, even if
partially, including attached files, is
strictly prohibited, will be considered a
criminal offense, so you must reply to the
original sender to inform about this
communication and delete it.<br>
<br>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br>
RPD mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div><br clear="all">
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br>
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">
<div dir="ltr"><b><font>Caleb Ogundele</font></b>
<div><font>Email: <a href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">muyiwacaleb@gmail.com</a></font></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
</div>
<br>
**********************************************<br>
IPv4 is over<br>
Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br>
<a href="http://www.theipv6company.com/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
The IPv6 Company<br>
<br>
This electronic message contains information which may be
privileged or confidential. The information is intended to
be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above
and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying,
distribution or use of the contents of this information,
even if partially, including attached files, is strictly
prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you
are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure,
copying, distribution or use of the contents of this
information, even if partially, including attached files, is
strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense,
so you must reply to the original sender to inform about
this communication and delete it.<br>
<br>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br>
RPD mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
<fieldset class="moz-mime-attachment-header"></fieldset>
<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">_______________________________________________
RPD mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div></blockquote></div><br></div><br>**********************************************<br>
IPv4 is over<br>
Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br>
http://www.theipv6company.com<br>
The IPv6 Company<br>
<br>
This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.<br>
<br>
</body></html>