<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I think that the orderly conduct of the meetings and the credibility of the group and thus the process requires that we follow the rules as written.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you believe that the rules as they are written constitute a mistake we should not repeat, then there is a process for changing those rules and it should be followed.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Until the rules are changed, we should not be modifying the process ad hoc just because we feel like it or we didn’t like some of the previous outcomes.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 29, 2022, at 05:04, Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" class="">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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  <div class=""><p class="">Exactly, it is so strange the idea to have it only during the in
      person event that I find to weird someone suggesting and insisting
      it to be there. Wasn't it enough the historic that happened
      already to keep insisting in the mistake ?</p><p class="">Fernando<br class="">
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/04/2022 09:00, Arnaud AMELINA
      wrote:<br class="">
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        <div dir="auto" class="">Dear Daniel, </div>
        <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
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        <div dir="auto" class="">the problem with Physical persons present at the
          meeting is we repeat the mistakes of Kampala where people are
          shipped into the meeting room during the PPM and given tags
          and food to vote for certain candidates.  </div>
        <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div dir="auto" class="">This people often dont even know what AFRINIC or
          the PDP is and last time we witnessed even National Antems
          being sang by a crowd that came in to specifically vote for
          certain candidates</div>
        <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div dir="auto" class="">AFRINIC also reported an influx of registration
          on RPD mailing list which can not be used as a voter register
          considering the number of sockpuppets who have since
          registered on the list but are not active participants</div>
        <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div dir="auto" class="">Do you want to become a co-chair, how about you
          come forward and convince the WG openly here on rpd list.</div>
        <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div dir="auto" class="">The WG could assess your ability to do the job
          through your sense of communication, consensus building,
          conflict management, etc…</div>
        <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div dir="auto" class="">--</div>
        <div dir="auto" class="">Arnaud </div>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le jeu. 28 avr. 2022 à 17:52,
          Daniel I. Yakmut <<a href="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">yakmutd@googlemail.com</a>>
          a écrit :<br class="">
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          <div class=""><p class="">Dear Arnaud,</p><p class="">It cannot be publicly (All Stakeholders) and at the same
              Resource holder only endorsement.</p><p class="">Speaking as a Resource Holder, I do not agree with the
              imposition of Co-Chairs on the mailing list. Let the
              selection take place during the PPM in Mauritius, I don't
              have qualms if that will be done by the limited number of
              persons physically present at the meeting,</p><p class="">Simply,</p><p class="">Daniel<br class="">
            </p>
            <div class="">On 28/04/2022 14:32, Arnaud AMELINA wrote:<br class="">
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              <div dir="ltr" class="">
                <div dir="ltr" class="">Hi please see inline</div>
                <br class="">
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mar. 26 avr. 2022
                    à 15:32, Daniel Yakmut <<a href="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">yakmutd@googlemail.com</a>>
                    a écrit :<br class="">
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                    <div dir="auto" class="">Dear Arnaud 
                      <div dir="auto" class="">Why do we need a PDWG, if who
                        matters are resource holders. I will advocate
                        all other persons vacate the membership of the
                        PDWG and allow the resource holders do what they
                        like and how they like</div>
                      <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                      </div>
                      <div dir="auto" class="">However,  if PDWG is a stakeholder
                        arrangement,  then we must give everyone an
                        equal footing. Let us stop being Hitlers here.</div>
                      <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                      </div>
                      <div dir="auto" class="">Simply,</div>
                      <div dir="auto" class="">Daniel</div>
                      <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                      </div>
                      <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
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                  <div class=""><br class="">
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                  <div class="">
                    <div dir="auto" class="">Hmmmm… Hitler? </div>
                    <div dir="auto" class="">His Majesty, Please let not go
                      there. Extremism never built  a good society. </div>
                    <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto" class="">I never said  that only the
                      ressources members matter </div>
                    <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto" class="">iCP-2  principle (2)  is clear on
                      the importance of the ressource members in the  «
                      raison d’être »  of a RIR and the bylaws accepted
                      and defined  the roles and prerogatives of each
                      stakeholder.</div>
                    <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto" class="">I prefer a publicly endorsed 
                      co-chair by Resources members to a rogue and
                      conflicted co-chair serving hidden agenda and
                      third party motives.</div>
                    <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto" class="">Why  is this a big issue when the 
                      final selection of the co-chairs is made by the
                      WG?</div>
                    <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto" class="">Arnaud</div>
                  </div>
                  <div class=""><br class="">
                  </div>
                  <div class=""> </div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 26 Apr
                        2022, 12:07 Arnaud AMELINA, <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>>
                        wrote:<br class="">
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="">
                          <div class="">Hummm ! my comments inline<br class="">
                          </div>
                          <br class="">
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                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le lun. 25
                              avr. 2022 à 13:27, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>>
                              a écrit :<br class="">
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                              <div dir="ltr" class="">Dear all, 
                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                </div>
                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                  <div class="">I have tried as much as possible
                                    not to make a comment but it seems I
                                    have to comment on this as I would
                                    also be making a comment on the
                                    other impunity the board leadership
                                    have decided to plunge AFRINIC into
                                    recently. </div>
                                  <div class="">1.  This timeline is not
                                    acceptable because I don't know how
                                    Co-chairs would emerge via the use
                                    of the mailing list.</div>
                                </div>
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                            <div class=""><br class="">
                            </div>
                            <div class="">
                              <div dir="auto" class="">We keep repeating
                                ourselves.   </div>
                              <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div dir="auto" class="">You do know how Policy
                                discussions and decisions are made on
                                the ML, but somehow you do not know how
                                the selection of Co-chairs to take on
                                the administrative  support role of the
                                Working Group, happens on the same
                                mailinglist. <br class="">
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <div class=""> </div>
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                              <div dir="ltr" class="">
                                <div class="">
                                  <div class=""> It was tried last time what we
                                    ended up having are impostors.</div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
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                            <div class=""><br class="">
                            </div>
                            <div class="">Impostors ?  These two interim
                              co-chairs are respectable community
                              members with proven reputation and
                              expertise who have done a great service so
                              far and  I am sure, WG participants would
                              want them to continue.</div>
                            <div class=""> </div>
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                              <div dir="ltr" class="">
                                <div class="">
                                  <div class=""> Two people who claimed they
                                    emerged as consensus candidates when
                                    some others on the mailing did not
                                    agree.  I see no consensus in the
                                    process.</div>
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                            <div class=""><br class="">
                            </div>
                            <div class="">
                              <div dir="auto" class="">Looks like you still have
                                a problem with understanding
                                “consensus” </div>
                              <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div dir="auto" class="">Do “objections” mean de
                                facto ”no consensus”? <br class="">
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <div class=""> </div>
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                              <div dir="ltr" class="">
                                <div class="">
                                  <div class="">  Then I object to criteria J. I
                                    see no reason for this.
                                    Endorsement from resource members
                                    shows some form of affiliation.</div>
                                </div>
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                            <div class=""><br class="">
                            </div>
                            <div class="">
                              <div dir="auto" class="">Affiliation to who? 
                                Resource members are the main
                                stakeholders here, accountable to the
                                global community.  </div>
                              <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div dir="auto" class="">The community has
                                witnessed sponsored Co-chairs before who
                                were supposed to be participating as
                                individuals without motives.</div>
                            </div>
                            <div class=""> </div>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                              <div dir="ltr" class="">
                                <div class="">
                                  <div class=""> co-chairs are not expected to be
                                    endorsed this way. </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </blockquote>
                            <div class=""><br class="">
                            </div>
                            <div class="">
                              <div dir="auto" class="">Who says so ?  Even though
                                resources members are also part of the
                                community, they are the direct affected
                                parties by policies and decisions made
                                by the PDP. </div>
                              <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div dir="auto" class="">As a known and well
                                organised stakeholders, I see nothing
                                wrong with them endorsing co-chairs or
                                even endorsing draft policy proposals. 
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                                  <div class="">@OWEN: I hope i am not eligible
                                    to be a board member yet</div>
                                  <div class="">Cheers </div>
                                  <div class=""><br class="">
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="">AK</div>
                                  <div class=""><br class="">
                                  </div>
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                            <div class=""><br class="">
                            </div>
                            <div class="">--<br class="">
                            </div>
                            <div class="">Arnaud<br class="">
                            </div>
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">
                                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                  Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 6:37 AM Owen
                                  DeLong via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
                                  wrote:<br class="">
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                                  <div class=""><br class="">
                                    <div class=""><br class="">
                                      <blockquote type="cite" class="">
                                        <div class="">On Apr 23, 2022, at 09:09 ,
                                          Daniel Yakmut via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
                                          wrote:</div>
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                                          <div dir="auto" class="">Dear Sylvain,
                                            <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                                            </div>
                                            <div dir="auto" class="">You answered
                                              my questions,  we can do
                                              things when and how we
                                              like it. It clearly also
                                              shows that we can
                                              interpret laws and rules
                                              at our whims and caprices.</div>
                                            <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                                            </div>
                                            <div dir="auto" class="">As I can see
                                              the spirit of the letters
                                              of the CPM does not matter
                                              anymore. </div>
                                            <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                                            </div>
                                            <div dir="auto" class="">The world is
                                              a jungle indeed. </div>
                                            <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
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                                      <div class=""><br class="">
                                      </div>
                                      With beliefs like this, you are
                                      now eligible to be a member of the
                                      AFRINIC board.</div>
                                    <div class=""><br class="">
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">Owen</div>
                                    <div class=""><br class="">
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                                          <div dir="auto" class="">
                                            <div dir="auto" class="">Simply,</div>
                                            <div dir="auto" class="">Daniel</div>
                                          </div>
                                          <br class="">
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri,
                                              22 Apr 2022, 18:32 Sylvain
                                              Baya, <<a href="mailto:abscoco@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer
                                                noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">abscoco@gmail.com</a>>
                                              wrote:<br class="">
                                            </div>
                                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear
                                              PDWG,
                                              <div class="">Hope this email finds
                                                you in good health!</div>
                                              <div class=""><br class="">
                                              </div>
                                              <div class="">Please see my
                                                comments below,
                                                inline...</div>
                                              <div class=""><br class="">
                                                Le vendredi 22 avril
                                                2022, Daniel I. Yakmut
                                                via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer
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                                                  <div class=""><p class="">Dear All,</p>
                                                  </div>
                                                </blockquote>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="">
                                                  <div class="">Hi Daniel,</div>
                                                  <div class="">Thanks for your
                                                    email, brother!</div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div class=""> </div>
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                                                  <div class=""><p class="">Have we amended
                                                      the process of
                                                      selecting/nominating/electing
                                                      Co-Chairs now? </p><p class=""><br class="">
                                                    </p>
                                                  </div>
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                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="">Please process are
                                                  you refering to?</div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="">Remember that we
                                                  had agreed that the
                                                  procedure </div>
                                                <div class="">available to
                                                  replace PDWG's Chairs
                                                  is very open; </div>
                                                <div class="">and it's not seems
                                                  to be a bug in the
                                                  actual version</div>
                                                <div class=""> (1.6) of the PDP
                                                  [1].</div>
                                                <div class="">__</div>
                                                <div class="">[1]: <<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/manual/amp#PDP-Process" rel="noreferrer
                                                    noreferrer
                                                    noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://afrinic.net/policy/manual/amp#PDP-Process</a>></div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="">As you know, the
                                                  appropriate words are:
                                                  *choose*, </div>
                                                <div class="">*nominate*,
                                                  *select*, *selection*;
                                                  and each of those</div>
                                                <div class=""> correspond to a
                                                  particular situation
                                                  about PDWG </div>
                                                <div class="">Chairs' tenure and
                                                  replacement.</div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="">Of course, in case
                                                  of a replacement after
                                                  a full </div>
                                                <div class="">mandate, the
                                                  appropriate term is:
                                                  "*nominate* </div>
                                                <div class="">during the PPM". Is
                                                  it preventing the PDWG
                                                  to do </div>
                                                <div class="">whatever it see fit
                                                  before the PPM; in
                                                  order to </div>
                                                <div class="">ensure itself that
                                                  the *nomination* is
                                                  successfully </div>
                                                <div class="">conducted during
                                                  the up coming PPM?<br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="">That's the
                                                  question!</div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class=""><paste_CPM_section_3.3></div>
                                                <div class="">
                                                  <h3 style="padding:0.5em;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:1em;background-image:none;background-color:rgb(110,151,204);color:rgb(51,51,51);background-position:0%
                                                    0%" class="">3.3  The Policy
                                                    Development Working
                                                    Group (PDWG)</h3><p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px" class="">The
                                                    Policy Development
                                                    Working Group (PDWG)
                                                    discusses the
                                                    proposals. Anyone
                                                    may participate via
                                                    the Internet or in
                                                    person. PDWG work is
                                                    carried out through
                                                    the Resource Policy
                                                    Discussion mailing
                                                    list (<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);text-decoration-line:underline" rel="noreferrer
                                                      noreferrer
                                                      noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rpd@afrinic.net</a>) and the bi-annual
                                                    AFRINIC Public
                                                    Policy Meetings
                                                    (PPM). Any person,
                                                    participating either
                                                    in person or
                                                    remotely, is
                                                    considered to be
                                                    part of the Policy
                                                    Development Working
                                                    Group.</p><p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px" class="">The
                                                    Policy Development
                                                    Working Group has
                                                    two Chairs to
                                                    perform its
                                                    administrative
                                                    functions. The PDWG
                                                    Chairs are chosen by
                                                    the AFRINIC
                                                    community during the
                                                    Public Policy
                                                    Meeting and serve
                                                    staggered two-year
                                                    terms. The term ends
                                                    during the first
                                                    Public Policy
                                                    Meeting
                                                    corresponding to the
                                                    end of the term for
                                                    which they were
                                                    appointed. A term
                                                    may begin or end no
                                                    sooner than the
                                                    first day of the
                                                    Public Policy
                                                    Meeting and no later
                                                    than the last day of
                                                    the Public Policy
                                                    Meeting as
                                                    determined by the
                                                    mutual agreement of
                                                    the current Chair
                                                    and the new Chair.</p><p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px" class="">If
                                                    the Working Group
                                                    Chair is unable to
                                                    serve his or her
                                                    full term, the
                                                    Working Group may
                                                    select a replacement
                                                    to serve the
                                                    remainder of the
                                                    term. If the Working
                                                    Group Chairs are
                                                    unable to attend the
                                                    Public Policy
                                                    Meeting, the Working
                                                    Group shall nominate
                                                    a Chair for the
                                                    session. Anyone
                                                    present at the
                                                    meeting, whether in
                                                    person or by remote
                                                    participation, may
                                                    participate in the
                                                    selection process
                                                    for a temporary
                                                    Chair.</p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div class=""></paste_CPM_section_3.3></div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class=""> </div>
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                                                  <div class=""><p class="">Because the
                                                      proposed
                                                      activities and
                                                      timeline looks
                                                      extremely strange
                                                      to me. </p><p class=""><br class="">
                                                    </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                </blockquote>
                                                <div class=""> </div>
                                                <div class="">Please, could you
                                                  elaborate on what you
                                                  see as </div>
                                                <div class="">strange?</div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
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                                                  <div class=""><p class=""><br class="">
                                                    </p><p class="">However, if I am
                                                      missing something,
                                                      please can i be
                                                      referred to the
                                                      reviewed (new)
                                                      document that says
                                                      we can now
                                                      select/nominate/elect
                                                      co-chairs on the
                                                      mailing list.</p>
                                                  </div>
                                                </blockquote>
                                                <div class=""> </div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="">It's clearly not
                                                  about a formal
                                                  document/DPP :-/</div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="">But if you want,
                                                  feel free to propose a
                                                  DPP to </div>
                                                <div class="">clarify what
                                                  appeares to be void
                                                  into the running</div>
                                                <div class=""> version of the
                                                  CPM.</div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="">...i agree that the
                                                  *nomination* is done
                                                  during the</div>
                                                <div class=""> PPM, per CPM
                                                  section 3.3, but
                                                  what's preventing </div>
                                                <div class="">the PDWG to
                                                  consensually prepare
                                                  its success </div>
                                                <div class="">beforehand? It's
                                                  exactely what's
                                                  happening right </div>
                                                <div class="">now, imho!</div>
                                                <div class="">Please, see also
                                                  early comment above.</div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class=""> </div>
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                                                  <div class=""><p class="">Someone like me
                                                      is beginning to
                                                      loose interest</p><p class=""><br class="">
                                                    </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                </blockquote>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="">...i understand
                                                  your say, and i
                                                  sympatize, brother; </div>
                                                <div class="">but i don't think
                                                  it's actually the
                                                  case.</div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="">It's rather a PDP
                                                  flexibility which
                                                  allows the PDWG </div>
                                                <div class="">to consensually and
                                                  freely do things that
                                                  could ameliorate its
                                                  difficult
                                                  conditions...</div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class=""> </div>
                                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px
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                                                  <div class=""><p class=""> with us
                                                      conducting our
                                                      activities without
                                                      a standing
                                                      guide.  </p><p class=""><br class="">
                                                    </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                </blockquote>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="">If you don't like
                                                  that, still,
                                                  interesting
                                                  flexibility, </div>
                                                <div class="">imho! then i
                                                  encourage you to
                                                  submit a DPP.</div>
                                                <div class=""> </div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px
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                                                  <div class=""><p class="">Clarifications
                                                      on  is important
                                                      and urgent.</p><p class=""><br class="">
                                                    </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                </blockquote>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="">...i hope this
                                                  clarifies something!</div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="">Also, i thank the
                                                  Policy Liaison Team
                                                  for the </div>
                                                <div class="">welcomed support
                                                  provided to the PDWG
                                                  to </div>
                                                <div class="">guarantee a soft
                                                  transition to a new
                                                  PDWG's Chair.</div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="">Shalom,</div>
                                                <div class="">--sb.</div>
                                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                                </div>
                                                <div class=""> </div>
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                                                  </p>
                                                  <div class="">On 21/04/2022
                                                    19:08, AFRINIC
                                                    Policy Liaison
                                                    wrote:<br class="">
                                                  </div>
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