<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 23, 2022, at 09:09 , Daniel Yakmut via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Dear Sylvain,<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">You answered my questions, we can do things when and how we like it. It clearly also shows that we can interpret laws and rules at our whims and caprices.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">As I can see the spirit of the letters of the CPM does not matter anymore. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">The world is a jungle indeed. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>With beliefs like this, you are now eligible to be a member of the AFRINIC board.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Simply,</div><div dir="auto" class="">Daniel</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 22 Apr 2022, 18:32 Sylvain Baya, <<a href="mailto:abscoco@gmail.com" class="">abscoco@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear PDWG,<div class="">Hope this email finds you in good health!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please see my comments below, inline...</div><div class=""><br class="">Le vendredi 22 avril 2022, Daniel I. Yakmut via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> a écrit :<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=""><p class="">Dear All,</p></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Hi Daniel,</div><div class="">Thanks for your email, brother!</div></div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><p class="">Have we amended the process of selecting/nominating/electing
Co-Chairs now? </p><p class=""><br class=""></p></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please process are you refering to?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Remember that we had agreed that the procedure </div><div class="">available to replace PDWG's Chairs is very open; </div><div class="">and it's not seems to be a bug in the actual version</div><div class=""> (1.6) of the PDP [1].</div><div class="">__</div><div class="">[1]: <<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/manual/amp#PDP-Process" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://afrinic.net/policy/manual/amp#PDP-Process</a>></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As you know, the appropriate words are: *choose*, </div><div class="">*nominate*, *select*, *selection*; and each of those</div><div class=""> correspond to a particular situation about PDWG </div><div class="">Chairs' tenure and replacement.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Of course, in case of a replacement after a full </div><div class="">mandate, the appropriate term is: "*nominate* </div><div class="">during the PPM". Is it preventing the PDWG to do </div><div class="">whatever it see fit before the PPM; in order to </div><div class="">ensure itself that the *nomination* is successfully </div><div class="">conducted during the up coming PPM?<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That's the question!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><paste_CPM_section_3.3></div><div class=""><h3 style="padding:0.5em;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:1em;background:rgb(110,151,204);color:rgb(51,51,51)" class="">3.3 <a id="m_4746811756887310323PDWG" style="text-decoration-line:underline" rel="noreferrer" class=""></a>The Policy Development Working Group (PDWG)</h3><p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px" class="">The Policy Development Working Group (PDWG) discusses the proposals. Anyone may participate via the Internet or in person. PDWG work is carried out through the Resource Policy Discussion mailing list (<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);text-decoration-line:underline" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>) and the bi-annual AFRINIC Public Policy Meetings (PPM). Any person, participating either in person or remotely, is considered to be part of the Policy Development Working Group.</p><p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px" class="">The Policy Development Working Group has two Chairs to perform its administrative functions. The PDWG Chairs are chosen by the AFRINIC community during the Public Policy Meeting and serve staggered two-year terms. The term ends during the first Public Policy Meeting corresponding to the end of the term for which they were appointed. A term may begin or end no sooner than the first day of the Public Policy Meeting and no later than the last day of the Public Policy Meeting as determined by the mutual agreement of the current Chair and the new Chair.</p><p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px" class="">If the Working Group Chair is unable to serve his or her full term, the Working Group may select a replacement to serve the remainder of the term. If the Working Group Chairs are unable to attend the Public Policy Meeting, the Working Group shall nominate a Chair for the session. Anyone present at the meeting, whether in person or by remote participation, may participate in the selection process for a temporary Chair.</p></div><div class=""></paste_CPM_section_3.3></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><p class="">Because the proposed activities and timeline looks
extremely strange to me. </p><p class=""><br class=""></p></div></blockquote><div class=""> </div><div class="">Please, could you elaborate on what you see as </div><div class="">strange?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><p class=""><br class=""></p><p class="">However, if I am missing something,
please can i be referred to the reviewed (new) document that says
we can now select/nominate/elect co-chairs on the mailing list.</p></div></blockquote><div class=""> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It's clearly not about a formal document/DPP :-/</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But if you want, feel free to propose a DPP to </div><div class="">clarify what appeares to be void into the running</div><div class=""> version of the CPM.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">...i agree that the *nomination* is done during the</div><div class=""> PPM, per CPM section 3.3, but what's preventing </div><div class="">the PDWG to consensually prepare its success </div><div class="">beforehand? It's exactely what's happening right </div><div class="">now, imho!</div><div class="">Please, see also early comment above.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><p class="">Someone like me is beginning to loose interest</p><p class=""><br class=""></p></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">...i understand your say, and i sympatize, brother; </div><div class="">but i don't think it's actually the case.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It's rather a PDP flexibility which allows the PDWG </div><div class="">to consensually and freely do things that could ameliorate its difficult conditions...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><p class=""> with us conducting
our activities without a standing guide. </p><p class=""><br class=""></p></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you don't like that, still, interesting flexibility, </div><div class="">imho! then i encourage you to submit a DPP.</div><div class=""> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><p class="">Clarifications on is
important and urgent.</p><p class=""><br class="">
</p></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">...i hope this clarifies something!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also, i thank the Policy Liaison Team for the </div><div class="">welcomed support provided to the PDWG to </div><div class="">guarantee a soft transition to a new PDWG's Chair.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Shalom,</div><div class="">--sb.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p class="">Simply,</p><p class="">Daniel<br class="">
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<div class="">On 21/04/2022 19:08, AFRINIC Policy
Liaison wrote:<br class="">
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</b></font></p><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=""><font face="Arial" class=""><b style="font-weight:normal" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class="">Dear PDWG,</span></b></font></div>
<font face="Arial" class=""><b style="font-weight:normal" class=""><br class=""><div style="line-height: 1.38; text-align: justify; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class="">[...]</span></div></b></font></blockquote></blockquote></div><br class=""><br class="">-- <br class=""><p class="">Best Regards !<br class="">__<br class="">baya.sylvain[AT cmNOG DOT cm]|<<a href="https://cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure</a>><br class="">Subscribe to Mailing List: <<a href="https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/</a>><br class="">__<br class="">#LASAINTEBIBLE|#Romains15:33«Que LE #DIEU de #Paix soit avec vous tous! #Amen!»<br class="">#MaPrière est que tu naisses de nouveau. #Chrétiennement<br class="">«Comme une biche soupire après des courants d’eau, ainsi mon âme soupire après TOI, ô DIEU!»(#Psaumes42:2)<br class=""><br class=""></p>
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