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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Rachel,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Again, please, read the policy text. Is not taking a position on what is and what not abuse. See the videos with the presentations and email archive. It has been explained over and over.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 9/1/22 15:18, "Rachel Tubog" <<a href="mailto:racheltubog987@gmail.com">racheltubog987@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>How can AFRINIC force any member to reply to the « abuse » if AFRINIC cannot determine what is considered an abuse and what is not? Especially that the definition of a criminal/legal activity differs from one jurisdiction to another… It is up to the member to define what they think is acceptable in their network<br>operation and how they choose to react to it, so I’m not sure I get what value this policy adds exactly.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Greetings!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>R.T.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 10:21 PM Mathanya Ramaboea <<a href="mailto:mathanyawork@gmail.com">mathanyawork@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Dear PDWG,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>This proposal needs to go back to discussion for the next PPM since the concerns are still the same and remain unsolved. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Afrinic shouldn’t be the one deciding how network holders manage their abuse mailbox. Each one has the right to determine what to reply to and what to ignore and based on that, the whole purpose of this policy is pointless especially if AFRINIC cannot determine what is considered an abuse and what is not. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Mathanya.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 15:06, Ibeanusi Elvis <<a href="mailto:ibeanusielvis@gmail.com" target="_blank">ibeanusielvis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Dear All, <br><br>Handling the issue of abuse has been an ISSUE itself that the AFRINIC organization has found difficult to solve since the start. <br>Without overstepping or being considered intrusive, they could get members to publish their mailbox instead of consistently adopting and implementing unnecessary. unworthy and wasteful policies.<br>On the other hand, there is an alternative, which by simply publishing the mailboxes of their members while being careful and mindful of being regarded as intrusive to members. The General Abuse Contact Policy will present this result and effect. <br><br>Elvis. <br><br>> On Jan 6, 2022, at 23:21, PDWG Chair <<a href="mailto:vincent@ngundi.me.ke" target="_blank">vincent@ngundi.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> Dear AFRINIC PDWG,<br>> <br>> As per our announcement on 8 June 2021[1], the Last Call period of the proposal Abuse Contact Policy Update AFPUB-2018-GEN-001-DRAFT07 would have ended on 19th June 2021 at 2359UTC but an appeal was lodged on 16 June 2021, four (4) days before the close of the Last Call period. Now that the Appeal Committee has published its report, we wish to announce that the Last Call period for the proposal Abuse Contact Policy Update AFPUB-2018-GEN-001-DRAFT07 has been extended by four (4) days, and therefore closes on 09th January 2022 at 23:59 UTC.<br>> <br>> Thank you for your continued participation in this process.<br>> <br>> Kind Regards<br>> Vincent Ngundi and Darwin Da Costa<br>> AFRINIC PDWG Chairs<br>> <br>> [1] <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/013274.html" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/013274.html</a><br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> RPD mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>_______________________________________________ RPD mailing list RPD@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd <o:p></o:p></p></div><br>**********************************************<br>
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