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--></style><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">I must agree with some of the points raised by AK.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">It has been said many times: we can’t have a non-reciprocal policy.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">We are only creating the path for a war with the other RIRs.</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I do not think it will create a war with the other RIRs, they simply won’t engage in transfers with AFRINIC if the transfer policies are</div><div>not sufficiently compatible.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>A lack of relations is quite different from war.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>A lack of relations is like sleeping in separate bedrooms.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>War is when you are screaming at each other in front of the kids.</div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">In this region we always complained about other RIRs rules trying to interfere with our own rules, and we are now doing exactly the same?</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>If this policy is adopted, it doesn’t really interfere with the other RIRs rules. It merely renders AFRINIC an island incapable of engaging in transfers with (most) of the other RIRs.</div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">How come can we expect that other RIRs will not change their policies to protect their resources, and ensure that their own transfer policies don’t work anymore with AFRINIC, unless AFRINIC turns into a reciprocal system?</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>ARIN’s policies already do this. IIRC, the same is true of APNIC. I think RIPE is the only RIR that accepts transfers without a reciprocal policy, but I admit I have not reviewed LACNIC’s in detail and my recall of APNIC’s may not be 100% complete or accurate.</div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">Clearly it is a very wrong decision and will turn against AFRINIC.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>On this, we agree.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""></body></html>